Thanks a lot, Dr. Wood. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Wood Date: 16 October 2016 at 21:31 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:253830] Re: Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08 To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>
Strobilanthes bracteata is the correct name for the plant treated as Strobilanthes quadrangularis in the Flora of British India. It was originally described as Goldfussia bracteata by Nees and is I think is treated under this name in the Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal. This species does not occur in Bhutan or Sikkim but is restricted to western Nepal and neighbouring parts of Uttaranchel. The genus Strobilanthes was divided into many segregate genera by Bremekamp and others but there is no morphological, palynological or molecular support for these segregate genera. Certain groups can be discerned but they intergrade with others and the "key" character is often lost in obviously closely related species or occurs elsewhere. To give one example the genus Aechmanthera (A. gossypina = Strobilanthes tomentoa) is based partly on having an excurrent anther connective and partly on having 6-8-seeded capsules. There is nothing odd about its pollen. The excurrent anther connective is found in various other species - for example Strobilanthes echinata and its allies while 6-8-seeded capsules are found in various other species unrelated to those with the excurrent anther connective. None of the segregate genera, which include Pteracanthus, Sympagis, Aechmanthera, Goldfussia, Sericocalyx, Aechmanthera and over 20 others, can be accepted. I regard these all as Strobilanthes as do others working on Strobilanthes such as Venu in India and Deng in China besides Terao (Japan) and my colleagues at Oxford. I hope this is helpful. Regards John Wood ------------------------------ *From:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> *Sent:* 16 October 2016 16:36 *To:* John Wood *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:253830] Re: Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> Date: 16 October 2016 at 20:00 Subject: [efloraofindia:253830] Re: Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Strobilanthes atropurpureus NSJ-OCT 16/08 To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> Most pleased that there is input from Dr Wood about *Strobilanthes* - I have struggled with a number of these over the years! But can he, as this species is not in 'The Plant List' as an accepted species nor in 'Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal' nor 'Flora of Bhutan' what the synonyms are and which spp. it was likely to have been thought to have been, until *S.bracteata* was recognised and named? Might he also tell us what the current thinking as to how to separate *Pteracanthus* from *Strobilanthes* - both genera are included in the 'Enumeration.. ' above but only *Stroblilanthes* within 'Flora of Bhutan'? On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:55:58 PM UTC+1, raj wrote: > Dear Members, > > Strobilanthes atropurpureus for validation. Photo taken on the way to Gala > from Sirkha (Uttarakhand) on Aug 14, 2016, height approx. 8000 feet. > > -- > With Regards, > Narendra Joshi > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. 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