Re: [infinispan-dev] Replacing IRC

2017-10-18 Thread Tristan Tarrant 
Yes, I'm currently more tempted to wait for Stride (I have signed up for 
early access).

Tristan

On 10/18/17 1:09 PM, Vladimir Blagojevic wrote:
> Some updates on memory issues we talked about 
> https://slack.engineering/reducing-slacks-memory-footprint-4480fec7e8eb
> 
> I looked at Stride briefly and it also looks very promising with its 
> actions and decisions focus and deep integrations with Atlassian stack 
> we use anyway!
> 
> On 2017-10-16 8:45 AM, Katia Aresti wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a strong adopter of slack and I really like it. I've used it since 
>> it came out with Duchess (we started with an internal use for the 
>> team, and we have a community slack now with more that 150 people 
>> there that is little by little replacing our google group). I've use 
>> it in different communities, startups and big company client's teams. 
>> As far as I know, other open-source projects have already adopted it 
>> successfully.
>> What is cool about it is that joining any team and switching from one 
>> team to another is very easy. If people want to join the community, 
>> and they are already using slack, is very easy.
>>
>> I agree with Sanne, being able to use it from the smartphone is 
>> important and could be considered as a high requirement. I use slack 
>> on my phone, and it helps quit a lot. Most of the time I use it from 
>> my laptop, but there are cases where mobile has really helped us 
>> (specially in Duchess France slack). I use the native slack client on 
>> my mac and works very well.
>>
>> I haven't tested Stride or Gitter.
>>
>> Katia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Tristan Tarrant > > wrote:
>>
>> HipChat is being replaced by Stride.
>> I have dimissed HipChat in the past because it did not allow for a
>> single account to be shared across multiple groups. I believe this
>> will
>> be solved by Stride.
>>
>> Tristan
>>
> 
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Re: [infinispan-dev] Replacing IRC

2017-10-18 Thread Sebastian Laskawiec 
+1 to Slack. All JUG communities I know are using it. It is also worth to
mention that Slack was also adopted by Kubernetes folks.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 4:17 PM Katia Aresti  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a strong adopter of slack and I really like it. I've used it since it
> came out with Duchess (we started with an internal use for the team, and we
> have a community slack now with more that 150 people there that is little
> by little replacing our google group). I've use it in different
> communities, startups and big company client's teams. As far as I know,
> other open-source projects have already adopted it successfully.
> What is cool about it is that joining any team and switching from one team
> to another is very easy. If people want to join the community, and they are
> already using slack, is very easy.
>
> I agree with Sanne, being able to use it from the smartphone is important
> and could be considered as a high requirement. I use slack on my phone, and
> it helps quit a lot. Most of the time I use it from my laptop, but there
> are cases where mobile has really helped us (specially in Duchess France
> slack). I use the native slack client on my mac and works very well.
>
> I haven't tested Stride or Gitter.
>
> Katia
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Tristan Tarrant 
> wrote:
>
>> HipChat is being replaced by Stride.
>> I have dimissed HipChat in the past because it did not allow for a
>> single account to be shared across multiple groups. I believe this will
>> be solved by Stride.
>>
>> Tristan
>>
>> On 10/16/17 11:16 AM, Wolf Fink wrote:
>> > Why not use Hipchat as EAP/Wildfly to prevent from too many different
>> > platforms ?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Tristan Tarrant > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > last week we discussed the possibility of abandoning IRC in favour
>> of a
>> > more modern alternative.
>> >
>> > Hard requirements:
>> > - free (as in beer)
>> > - hosted (we don't want to maintain it ourselves)
>> > - multi-platform client: native (Linux, MacOS, Windows), browser
>> > - persistent logs
>> > - distinction between channel operators and normal users
>> > - guest access (without the need for registration)
>> > - integration with Jira for issue lookup
>> > - integration with GitHub for PR lookup
>> > - IRC bridge (so that users can connect with an IRC client)
>> > - ability to export data in case we want to move somewhere else
>> > - on-the-fly room creation for mini-teams
>> >
>> > Optionals:
>> > - Free (as in freedom)
>> > - offline notifications (i.e. see if I was notified while away)
>> > - mobile client: Android and iOS
>> > - proper native client (as most Electron clients are quite fat)
>> > - chat logs accessible without a client (it is acceptable if this is
>> > achieved via a bot)
>> > - integration with Jenkins for CI status
>> > - XMPP bridge (so that users can connect with an XMPP client)
>> >
>> > Not needed:
>> > - file sharing, audio/video
>> >
>> > Here is a list of candidates:
>> > - IRC (i.e. no change)
>> > - Slack
>> > - Stride (Atlassian's upcoming replacement for HipChat)
>> > - Matrix (Matrix.org, unfortunately with funding issues)
>> > - Gitter
>> > - Discord
>> > - Rocket.chat (unfortunately hosting is paid)
>> >
>> > If you have any other suggestions/recommendations, they are more
>> than
>> > welcome.
>> >
>> > Tristan
>> >
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>> > JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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>> >
>> >
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Re: [infinispan-dev] Replacing IRC

2017-10-18 Thread Vladimir Blagojevic 
Some updates on memory issues we talked about 
https://slack.engineering/reducing-slacks-memory-footprint-4480fec7e8eb


I looked at Stride briefly and it also looks very promising with its 
actions and decisions focus and deep integrations with Atlassian stack 
we use anyway!


On 2017-10-16 8:45 AM, Katia Aresti wrote:

Hi all,

I'm a strong adopter of slack and I really like it. I've used it since 
it came out with Duchess (we started with an internal use for the 
team, and we have a community slack now with more that 150 people 
there that is little by little replacing our google group). I've use 
it in different communities, startups and big company client's teams. 
As far as I know, other open-source projects have already adopted it 
successfully.
What is cool about it is that joining any team and switching from one 
team to another is very easy. If people want to join the community, 
and they are already using slack, is very easy.


I agree with Sanne, being able to use it from the smartphone is 
important and could be considered as a high requirement. I use slack 
on my phone, and it helps quit a lot. Most of the time I use it from 
my laptop, but there are cases where mobile has really helped us 
(specially in Duchess France slack). I use the native slack client on 
my mac and works very well.


I haven't tested Stride or Gitter.

Katia





On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Tristan Tarrant > wrote:


HipChat is being replaced by Stride.
I have dimissed HipChat in the past because it did not allow for a
single account to be shared across multiple groups. I believe this
will
be solved by Stride.

Tristan



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Re: [infinispan-dev] Replacing IRC

2017-10-18 Thread Dan Berindei 
Discourse [1] is more of a forum replacement than a chat, but I'd
still like to suggest it. I hate it how in IRC you never know when a
user has finished their idea and it's safe to start replying, and
typing notifications don't really work for me :)

Dan

[1]: https://meta.discourse.org/



On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Sebastian Laskawiec
 wrote:
> +1 to Slack. All JUG communities I know are using it. It is also worth to
> mention that Slack was also adopted by Kubernetes folks.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 4:17 PM Katia Aresti  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a strong adopter of slack and I really like it. I've used it since it
>> came out with Duchess (we started with an internal use for the team, and we
>> have a community slack now with more that 150 people there that is little by
>> little replacing our google group). I've use it in different communities,
>> startups and big company client's teams. As far as I know, other open-source
>> projects have already adopted it successfully.
>> What is cool about it is that joining any team and switching from one team
>> to another is very easy. If people want to join the community, and they are
>> already using slack, is very easy.
>>
>> I agree with Sanne, being able to use it from the smartphone is important
>> and could be considered as a high requirement. I use slack on my phone, and
>> it helps quit a lot. Most of the time I use it from my laptop, but there are
>> cases where mobile has really helped us (specially in Duchess France slack).
>> I use the native slack client on my mac and works very well.
>>
>> I haven't tested Stride or Gitter.
>>
>> Katia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Tristan Tarrant 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> HipChat is being replaced by Stride.
>>> I have dimissed HipChat in the past because it did not allow for a
>>> single account to be shared across multiple groups. I believe this will
>>> be solved by Stride.
>>>
>>> Tristan
>>>
>>> On 10/16/17 11:16 AM, Wolf Fink wrote:
>>> > Why not use Hipchat as EAP/Wildfly to prevent from too many different
>>> > platforms ?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Tristan Tarrant >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > last week we discussed the possibility of abandoning IRC in favour
>>> > of a
>>> > more modern alternative.
>>> >
>>> > Hard requirements:
>>> > - free (as in beer)
>>> > - hosted (we don't want to maintain it ourselves)
>>> > - multi-platform client: native (Linux, MacOS, Windows), browser
>>> > - persistent logs
>>> > - distinction between channel operators and normal users
>>> > - guest access (without the need for registration)
>>> > - integration with Jira for issue lookup
>>> > - integration with GitHub for PR lookup
>>> > - IRC bridge (so that users can connect with an IRC client)
>>> > - ability to export data in case we want to move somewhere else
>>> > - on-the-fly room creation for mini-teams
>>> >
>>> > Optionals:
>>> > - Free (as in freedom)
>>> > - offline notifications (i.e. see if I was notified while away)
>>> > - mobile client: Android and iOS
>>> > - proper native client (as most Electron clients are quite fat)
>>> > - chat logs accessible without a client (it is acceptable if this
>>> > is
>>> > achieved via a bot)
>>> > - integration with Jenkins for CI status
>>> > - XMPP bridge (so that users can connect with an XMPP client)
>>> >
>>> > Not needed:
>>> > - file sharing, audio/video
>>> >
>>> > Here is a list of candidates:
>>> > - IRC (i.e. no change)
>>> > - Slack
>>> > - Stride (Atlassian's upcoming replacement for HipChat)
>>> > - Matrix (Matrix.org, unfortunately with funding issues)
>>> > - Gitter
>>> > - Discord
>>> > - Rocket.chat (unfortunately hosting is paid)
>>> >
>>> > If you have any other suggestions/recommendations, they are more
>>> > than
>>> > welcome.
>>> >
>>> > Tristan
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Tristan Tarrant
>>> > Infinispan Lead
>>> > JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>> > ___
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>>> > infinispan-dev@lists.jboss.org
>>> > 
>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev
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>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
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Re: [infinispan-dev] Replacing IRC

2017-10-18 Thread Sanne Grinovero 
Sorry but I'm not going to use slack, I for one are planning to put my
system resources to better use.

On 18 Oct 2017 3:23 pm, "Sebastian Laskawiec"  wrote:

> +1 to Slack. All JUG communities I know are using it. It is also worth to
> mention that Slack was also adopted by Kubernetes folks.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 4:17 PM Katia Aresti  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a strong adopter of slack and I really like it. I've used it since it
>> came out with Duchess (we started with an internal use for the team, and we
>> have a community slack now with more that 150 people there that is little
>> by little replacing our google group). I've use it in different
>> communities, startups and big company client's teams. As far as I know,
>> other open-source projects have already adopted it successfully.
>> What is cool about it is that joining any team and switching from one
>> team to another is very easy. If people want to join the community, and
>> they are already using slack, is very easy.
>>
>> I agree with Sanne, being able to use it from the smartphone is important
>> and could be considered as a high requirement. I use slack on my phone, and
>> it helps quit a lot. Most of the time I use it from my laptop, but there
>> are cases where mobile has really helped us (specially in Duchess France
>> slack). I use the native slack client on my mac and works very well.
>>
>> I haven't tested Stride or Gitter.
>>
>> Katia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Tristan Tarrant 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HipChat is being replaced by Stride.
>>> I have dimissed HipChat in the past because it did not allow for a
>>> single account to be shared across multiple groups. I believe this will
>>> be solved by Stride.
>>>
>>> Tristan
>>>
>>> On 10/16/17 11:16 AM, Wolf Fink wrote:
>>> > Why not use Hipchat as EAP/Wildfly to prevent from too many different
>>> > platforms ?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Tristan Tarrant >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > last week we discussed the possibility of abandoning IRC in favour
>>> of a
>>> > more modern alternative.
>>> >
>>> > Hard requirements:
>>> > - free (as in beer)
>>> > - hosted (we don't want to maintain it ourselves)
>>> > - multi-platform client: native (Linux, MacOS, Windows), browser
>>> > - persistent logs
>>> > - distinction between channel operators and normal users
>>> > - guest access (without the need for registration)
>>> > - integration with Jira for issue lookup
>>> > - integration with GitHub for PR lookup
>>> > - IRC bridge (so that users can connect with an IRC client)
>>> > - ability to export data in case we want to move somewhere else
>>> > - on-the-fly room creation for mini-teams
>>> >
>>> > Optionals:
>>> > - Free (as in freedom)
>>> > - offline notifications (i.e. see if I was notified while away)
>>> > - mobile client: Android and iOS
>>> > - proper native client (as most Electron clients are quite fat)
>>> > - chat logs accessible without a client (it is acceptable if this
>>> is
>>> > achieved via a bot)
>>> > - integration with Jenkins for CI status
>>> > - XMPP bridge (so that users can connect with an XMPP client)
>>> >
>>> > Not needed:
>>> > - file sharing, audio/video
>>> >
>>> > Here is a list of candidates:
>>> > - IRC (i.e. no change)
>>> > - Slack
>>> > - Stride (Atlassian's upcoming replacement for HipChat)
>>> > - Matrix (Matrix.org, unfortunately with funding issues)
>>> > - Gitter
>>> > - Discord
>>> > - Rocket.chat (unfortunately hosting is paid)
>>> >
>>> > If you have any other suggestions/recommendations, they are more
>>> than
>>> > welcome.
>>> >
>>> > Tristan
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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>>> >
>>> >
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