RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-06-01 Thread Arthur Barrett
David,

Just to be clear CVSNT is a Unix/Linux based system (that also runs on
windows).

CVSNT has some features that CVS doesn't like
mergepoints/audit/changesets/lockserver etc etc.

Regards,


Arthur Barrett

-Original Message-
From: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 11:26 PM
To: Arthur Barrett; info-cvs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?


Hi Arthur,

Again thanks for the interest.  We're mainly a UNIX/Linux based
operation, but there are some windows users out there (poor souls).

Cheers,

David Carter-Hitchin.
--
Royal Bank of Scotland
Interest Rate Derivatives IT
135 Bishopsgate
LONDON EC2M 3TP

Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088


 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 May 2006 20:38
 To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 David,
 
 If you are using CVSNT as a client and CVS as a server then they were 
 simply watches.
 
 However if you have CVSNT on the server then I suggest you
 subscribe to
 the CVSNT list instead:
 http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt
 or
 news://news.cvsnt.org/support.cvsnt
 
 
 If you are using CVS as a server and CVSNT (or TortosieCVS/WinCVS) 
 extensively as a client then I recommend upgrading the server to CVSNT

 2.5.03 (available for free for Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows).  CVSNT server 
 generally works best with CVSNT client and has many additional 
 features for commercial software development such as mergepoints
 (visual tracking
 of when and where merges occur), change sets ( group and 
 track and merge
 changes by an arbitrary group), failsafe audit to database (if audit
 fails then so does the client operation) and a separate contention
 lock service.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Arthur Barrett
 
 -Original Message-
 From: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:45 AM
 To: Arthur Barrett; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 Hi Arthur,
 
 Thanks for you comments, but too late!  They've gone.  They were very 
 old and applied to users who've now left.  Are you sure these are 
 different at the repository end, if cvsnt is being used?  I can see 
 how that could be..
 
 Cheers,
 
 David Carter-Hitchin.
 --
 Royal Bank of Scotland
 Interest Rate Derivatives IT
 135 Bishopsgate
 LONDON EC2M 3TP
 
 Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 27 May 2006 04:38
  To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
  Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
  
  
  David,
  
  I know some people in your company are using CVSNT on
  Linux/Unix/Windows.  In this case you should definitely not touch 
  these fileattr files since they contain the permissions/ACL's.
  
  Regards,
  
  
  Arthur Barrett
  
 
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RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-30 Thread CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM
Hi Arthur,

Again thanks for the interest.  We're mainly a UNIX/Linux based operation,
but there
are some windows users out there (poor souls).

Cheers,

David Carter-Hitchin.
--
Royal Bank of Scotland
Interest Rate Derivatives IT
135 Bishopsgate
LONDON EC2M 3TP

Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088


 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 May 2006 20:38
 To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 David,
 
 If you are using CVSNT as a client and CVS as a server then they were
 simply watches.
 
 However if you have CVSNT on the server then I suggest you 
 subscribe to
 the CVSNT list instead:
 http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt
 or
 news://news.cvsnt.org/support.cvsnt
 
 
 If you are using CVS as a server and CVSNT (or TortosieCVS/WinCVS)
 extensively as a client then I recommend upgrading the server to CVSNT
 2.5.03 (available for free for Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows).  CVSNT server
 generally works best with CVSNT client and has many 
 additional features
 for commercial software development such as mergepoints 
 (visual tracking
 of when and where merges occur), change sets ( group and 
 track and merge
 changes by an arbitrary group), failsafe audit to database (if audit
 fails then so does the client operation) and a separate contention
 lock service.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Arthur Barrett 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:45 AM
 To: Arthur Barrett; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 Hi Arthur,
 
 Thanks for you comments, but too late!  They've gone.  They were very
 old and applied to users who've now left.  Are you sure these are
 different at the repository end, if cvsnt is being used?  I 
 can see how
 that could be..
 
 Cheers,
 
 David Carter-Hitchin.
 --
 Royal Bank of Scotland
 Interest Rate Derivatives IT
 135 Bishopsgate
 LONDON EC2M 3TP
 
 Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 27 May 2006 04:38
  To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
  Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
  
  
  David,
  
  I know some people in your company are using CVSNT on 
  Linux/Unix/Windows.  In this case you should definitely not touch 
  these fileattr files since they contain the permissions/ACL's.
  
  Regards,
  
  
  Arthur Barrett
  
 
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RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-27 Thread CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM
Hi Arthur,

Thanks for you comments, but too late!  They've gone.  They were very old
and applied to users who've now left.  Are you sure these are different at
the repository end, if cvsnt is being used?  I can see how that could be..

Cheers,

David Carter-Hitchin.
--
Royal Bank of Scotland
Interest Rate Derivatives IT
135 Bishopsgate
LONDON EC2M 3TP

Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088


 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 May 2006 04:38
 To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 David,
 
 I know some people in your company are using CVSNT on
 Linux/Unix/Windows.  In this case you should definitely not 
 touch these
 fileattr files since they contain the permissions/ACL's.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Arthur Barrett
 

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RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-27 Thread Arthur Barrett
David,

If you are using CVSNT as a client and CVS as a server then they were
simply watches.

However if you have CVSNT on the server then I suggest you subscribe to
the CVSNT list instead:
http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt
or
news://news.cvsnt.org/support.cvsnt


If you are using CVS as a server and CVSNT (or TortosieCVS/WinCVS)
extensively as a client then I recommend upgrading the server to CVSNT
2.5.03 (available for free for Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows).  CVSNT server
generally works best with CVSNT client and has many additional features
for commercial software development such as mergepoints (visual tracking
of when and where merges occur), change sets ( group and track and merge
changes by an arbitrary group), failsafe audit to database (if audit
fails then so does the client operation) and a separate contention
lock service.

Regards,


Arthur Barrett 

-Original Message-
From: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:45 AM
To: Arthur Barrett; info-cvs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?


Hi Arthur,

Thanks for you comments, but too late!  They've gone.  They were very
old and applied to users who've now left.  Are you sure these are
different at the repository end, if cvsnt is being used?  I can see how
that could be..

Cheers,

David Carter-Hitchin.
--
Royal Bank of Scotland
Interest Rate Derivatives IT
135 Bishopsgate
LONDON EC2M 3TP

Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088


 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 May 2006 04:38
 To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM; info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
 David,
 
 I know some people in your company are using CVSNT on 
 Linux/Unix/Windows.  In this case you should definitely not touch 
 these fileattr files since they contain the permissions/ACL's.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Arthur Barrett
 


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RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-26 Thread Arthur Barrett
David,

I know some people in your company are using CVSNT on
Linux/Unix/Windows.  In this case you should definitely not touch these
fileattr files since they contain the permissions/ACL's.

Regards,


Arthur Barrett


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RE: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-25 Thread CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM
Stuart, Mark,

Many thanks for your help - I've removed the old fileattr files and things
look much better.

Sorry about my signature - nothing I can do about it - please filter
everything after --.  Some lists chop off everything after:

--LongSig

Does that work here?

Thanks,

David Carter-Hitchin.
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Interest Rate Derivatives IT
135 Bishopsgate
LONDON EC2M 3TP

Tel: +44 (0) 207 085 1088


 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 May 2006 00:59
 To: CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM
 Cc: info-cvs@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: old fileattr files - safe to delete?
 
 
  We've got a bunch of CVS/fileattr files in our repository 
 that are ancient.
  I think I'm right in saying that the only way that these 
 get created are
  when people run 'cvs watch' and 'cvs edit'.  The people who 
 did this have
  long since gone and so have their logins.  Is it safe to 
 just delete the
  fileattr files to get rid of the watches or is there an 
 official way?
 
 You're correct that the only way fileattr files are created 
 in the repository
 is through cvs watch and cvs edit.
 
 CVS removes fileattr and the CVS subdirectory when there are no more
 watchers or editors for any of the files in that directory.
 
 A combination of
 $ cvs unedit
 $ cvs watch off
 $ cvs watch remove
 
 should get rid of the fileattrs although since you've lost 
 the old logins this
 might not be trivial. It should be entirely safe to remove 
 the CVS directories
 by hand from the repository itself.
 
 Good luck,
 Stuart.
 

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Re: old fileattr files - safe to delete?

2006-05-24 Thread Mark D. Baushke
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CARTER-HITCHIN, David, GBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We've got a bunch of CVS/fileattr files in our repository that are ancient.
 I think I'm right in saying that the only way that these get created are
 when people run 'cvs watch' and 'cvs edit'.  The people who did this have
 long since gone and so have their logins.  Is it safe to just delete the
 fileattr files to get rid of the watches or is there an official way?

The CVS/fileattr files are there to do book keeping on advisory locking
and 'cvs watch' files. You should be able to remove any of those files
without hurting the correct operation of the repository. So, yes, it is
safe to just delete the fileattr files.

When cvs 1.12.14 comes out, there will be a way for a cvs 'admin'
to remove specific user locks or watches from specific files. I do
not believe there is any command to just find all of them and purge
a specific user that has had their login removed.

-- Mark

PS: A brief note about your dislaimer:

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