Re: Multiple skiplist bugs found, patches attached

2007-11-13 Thread Simon Matter
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:34:34AM +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: Anyway - here it is. A recovery() that copes if the logstart parameter in the database header is wrong. No, I don't have a clue how that happened unless lseek() lied. Maybe it sometimes lies, I don't know. I'll be writing a

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott M. Likens
Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? I'll save you some time, http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ As well as, http://sourceforge.net/projects/modcaldav/ Truthfully, you don't need Cyrus to support a Calendar. Because in

Re: Multiple skiplist bugs found, patches attached

2007-11-13 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:12:18 +0100 (CET), Simon Matter [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:34:34AM +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: Anyway - here it is. A recovery() that copes if the logstart parameter in the database header is wrong. No, I don't have a clue how that

Calendars Cyrus

2007-11-13 Thread Ian G Batten
On 13 Nov 07, at 0724, Rudy Gevaert wrote: If we could ever get a decent calendar system that works together with Cyrus or other software many people would be happy. We run Cyrus for mail, Oracle Collaboration Suite ($$, but not Exchange-$$) for calendaring. The Outlook plugin that allows

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Ian G Batten
On 13 Nov 07, at 0812, Scott M. Likens wrote: No it's not as seamless as Exchange, but it works just fine and it's an open standard. However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. Offer a solution which doesn't allow Outlook to work ``like it should'' and you risk learning

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Scott M. Likens wrote: Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? I'll save you some time, http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ As well as, http://sourceforge.net/projects/modcaldav/ Truthfully, you don't need Cyrus

problems with virtual domains and sasl under Debian 4

2007-11-13 Thread Falko Zurell
Hello List_members, I'm using a Debian Linux 4 and the provided Cyrus (2.2.13) and SASL packages from Debian. I've configured my Postfix MTA to use virtual domains with the SASL library as authentication base. Postfix works fine for me but Cyrus makes some trouble. I can't authenticate on

Re: LARGE single-system Cyrus installs?

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: 250,000 mailboxes, 1,000 concurrent users, 60 million emails, 500k deliveries/day. For us, backups are the worst thing, followed by reiserfs's use of BLK, followed by the need to use a ton of disks to keep up with the i/o. For us backups are

Re: Replication: sync_client -r dies

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: It seems to me that the replication code ought to be a bit more robust than this when a replica goes down or loses network connectivity. Is the 2.3.10 code any better than 2.3.9 in the way this kind of situation is handled? I believe David Carter

Re: Replication: does it work in both directions?

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Rich Wales wrote: So, I would have replication set up going both directions between my two servers, but the sets of users handled in each direction would be disjoint. Each user would be assigned to one IMAP server (the master for their mailbox collection), and the

Re: Multiple skiplist bugs found, patches attached

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Simon Matter wrote: I didn't have much troubles with skiplist over the years and it has been a blessing since moving away from BDB. But I did have a few issues with broken skiplist files so your patches are very welcome. I have included the patches in my private rpm

Re: Just in case it is of general interest: ZFS mirroring was the culprit in our case

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Pascal Gienger wrote: Our latency problems went away like a miracle when we detached one half of the mirror (so it is no more a mirror). Read-Rates are doubled (not per device, the total read rate!), latency is cut off. No more latency problems. When attaching the

Timed Actions in Sieve

2007-11-13 Thread Ian G Batten
We've been having a chat about how useful it would be to have timed actions in sieve: so that a vacation message could be set up for a duration which would automatically revert, so that a forwarding could be set up for the duration of a short-term project, etc, etc. The naive way is to

Re: Calendars Cyrus

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
If we could ever get a decent calendar system that works together with Cyrus or other software many people would be happy. We use OpenGroupware - http://www.opengroupware.org Server is entirely Open Source; Outlook plugin (MAPI provider) is commercial. Works very well with Cyrus; which is

Re: Replication: problems with synctest

2007-11-13 Thread Alain Spineux
On Nov 13, 2007 8:08 AM, Rich Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I decided to try what I described earlier (replication in both directions, with different users using different master servers) . . . . But now I'm running into an authentication problem. One of my servers (my original

Re: Deleting top-level mailbox with 'delete_mode: delayed'

2007-11-13 Thread Simon Matter
On Nov 5, 2007 6:15 AM, Bron Gondwana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 01:15:37PM -0400, Brian Wong wrote: On Nov 2, 2007 12:39 PM, Rudy Gevaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Wong wrote: I was testing out Cyrus 2.3.10 and realized that when I set the option

Re: Deleting top-level mailbox with 'delete_mode: delayed'

2007-11-13 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:11:49PM +0100, Simon Matter wrote: expunge_mode: delayed delete_mode: delayed I've just tried a batch delete of mailboxes and hit the same wall. Mailbox deletion doesn't work anymore with 2.3.10 if delete_mode: delayed. If delete_mode: immediate it works, but

Re: LARGE single-system Cyrus installs?

2007-11-13 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:24:22AM +, David Carter wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: 250,000 mailboxes, 1,000 concurrent users, 60 million emails, 500k deliveries/day. For us, backups are the worst thing, followed by reiserfs's use of BLK, followed by the need to use

Re: Deleting top-level mailbox with 'delete_mode: delayed'

2007-11-13 Thread Simon Matter
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:11:49PM +0100, Simon Matter wrote: expunge_mode: delayed delete_mode: delayed I've just tried a batch delete of mailboxes and hit the same wall. Mailbox deletion doesn't work anymore with 2.3.10 if delete_mode: delayed. If delete_mode: immediate it works, but

Re: Replication: problems with synctest

2007-11-13 Thread Simon Matter
On Nov 13, 2007 8:08 AM, Rich Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I decided to try what I described earlier (replication in both directions, with different users using different master servers) . . . . But now I'm running into an authentication problem. One of my servers (my original

FW: Retrieving a banned e-mail

2007-11-13 Thread Rajeev R Veedu
We have a postfix+cyrus+Spamassassin setup and all the virus or Banned or spam e-mails will move to a folder on /var/virusmails. I have a falseposative mail moved due to a banned attachment name. Could you please help me to retrieve these e-mails? Thanks Rajeev R. Veedu Cyrus

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load horribly. I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... 3) ClamAV. Do note how much email I said we dealt with a minute. We didn't get a great deal of email. Maybe

Re: Replication: problems with synctest

2007-11-13 Thread Simon Matter
On Nov 13, 2007 8:08 AM, Rich Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I decided to try what I described earlier (replication in both directions, with different users using different master servers) . . . . But now I'm running into an authentication problem. One of my servers (my original

Re: LARGE single-system Cyrus installs?

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: If you're planning to lift a consistent copy of a .index file, you need to lock it for the duration of reading it (read lock at least). mailbox_lock_index() blocks flag updates (but this doesn't seem to be something that imapd worries about when

Re: Deleting top-level mailbox with 'delete_mode: delayed'

2007-11-13 Thread David Carter
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote: I have delete_mode: immediate on the replica and delete_mode: delayed on the master. sync_server doesn't pay any attention to delete_mode, so the option shouldn't have any effect on the replica. -- David Carter Email:

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Michael D. Sofka
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 03:36:55 am Rudy Gevaert wrote: Scott M. Likens wrote: Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? I'll save you some time, http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ As well as,

Re: Just in case it is of general interest: ZFS mirroring was the culprit in our case

2007-11-13 Thread Dale Ghent
Interesting. What's your kernel patch level? We're running on 125101-10 with the exact same configuration as you (mirrored to two arrays, in separate buildings even) and haven't seen this problem. /dale On Nov 13, 2007, at 1:23 AM, Pascal Gienger wrote: Our latency problems went away

Re: problems with virtual domains and sasl under Debian 4

2007-11-13 Thread Alain Spineux
On Nov 13, 2007 11:06 AM, Falko Zurell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List_members, I'm using a Debian Linux 4 and the provided Cyrus (2.2.13) and SASL packages from Debian. I've configured my Postfix MTA to use virtual domains with the SASL library as authentication base. Postfix works fine

Re: Calendars Cyrus

2007-11-13 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
We use OpenGroupware - http://www.opengroupware.org Server is entirely Open Source; Outlook plugin (MAPI provider) is commercial. Works very well with Cyrus; which is its intended IMAP server. Speaking of calendars,... What about Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning? They can speak to WebDAV

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread David Chait
One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are ultimately being forced to adopt Exchange en-mass and abandon our current

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Ian G Batten
On 13 Nov 07, at 1335, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: 3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load horribly. I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... 3) ClamAV. Do note how much email I said we dealt with

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
--On 13. November 2007 09:10:08 -0500 Joseph Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian G Batten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. Fortunately that's not true of everyone. They

Re: FW: Retrieving a banned e-mail

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
We have a postfix+cyrus+Spamassassin setup and all the virus or Banned or spam e-mails will move to a folder on /var/virusmails.\ I have a falseposative mail moved due to a banned attachment name. Could you please help me to retrieve these e-mails? If it really is dumped into a folder in

Re: Just in case it is of general interest: ZFS mirroring was the culprit in our case

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Banz
...though, we have seen super-greedyness of ZFS when resilvering. ;) On Nov 13, 2007, at 09:17, Dale Ghent wrote: Interesting. What's your kernel patch level? We're running on 125101-10 with the exact same configuration as you (mirrored to two arrays, in separate buildings even) and

Re: Timed Actions in Sieve

2007-11-13 Thread Listaccount
Zitat von Ian G Batten [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We've been having a chat about how useful it would be to have timed actions in sieve: so that a vacation message could be set up for a duration which would automatically revert, so that a forwarding could be set up for the duration of a short-term

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Joseph Brennan
David Chait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are ultimately being forced to adopt

Re: Just in case it is of general interest: ZFS mirroring was the culprit in our case

2007-11-13 Thread Vincent Fox
Can you expand on this, like a LOT? I recall a while ago you brought up some performance issues and said you had found hacks for them. Were those issues actually unresolved or are you talking about something else? I don't see any recent posts by you about problems with your Cyrus install. I'm

Re: Timed Actions in Sieve

2007-11-13 Thread Juan Pablo Baudoin
I had the same problem and solved it using a bash programan that generates the necesary sieve scripts. This is run with cron every day at night It checks for configuration request on a directory, process those files and creates sieve scripts for vacation activation and for deactivation, finaly

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are ultimately being forced to adopt Exchange en-mass and abandon our

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Darin Perusich
Have you looked at Funambol for your OSS push email? David Chait wrote: One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are

Re: Timed Actions in Sieve

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Banz
I had looked into this before, but really haven't had a chance to follow up on it. There is an draft for a sieve date/time extension, which allows you to use time comparisons in conditionals -- for example, the vacation message defined by a date range. This looks like its the current

Re: Timed Actions in Sieve

2007-11-13 Thread Listaccount
Zitat von Ian G Batten [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We've been having a chat about how useful it would be to have timed actions in sieve: so that a vacation message could be set up for a duration which would automatically revert, so that a forwarding could be set up for the duration of a short-term

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Zachariah Mully
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:10 -0500, Joseph Brennan wrote: Ian G Batten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They live in Microsoft Office, and they need a server to support it.

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread David Chait
Darin Perusich wrote: Have you looked at Funambol for your OSS push email? No I hadn't heard of it, but thanks for bringing it to my attention, I will give it a shot. Cheers, David Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List

Re: Calendars Cyrus

2007-11-13 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Tue, 13.11.2007 at 06:56:21 -0800, Nikola Milutinovic wrote: We use OpenGroupware - http://www.opengroupware.org Server is entirely Open Source; Outlook plugin (MAPI provider) is commercial. Works very well with Cyrus; which is its intended IMAP server. Speaking of

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Zachariah Mully
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:27 +0100, Gunnar Wrobel wrote: I don't know of ANY Kolab compatible client that would do that. Which client are you referring to? Cheers, Gunnar This was quite some time ago, around the first release of their 2.x product IIRC. It was the outlook connector that

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Gunnar Wrobel
Zachariah Mully [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:10 -0500, Joseph Brennan wrote: Ian G Batten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They live in Microsoft

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They live in Microsoft Office, and they need a server to support it. That is the assignment given. I was looking at Open-Xchange on the web http://www.open-xchange.com/. The server provides webmail and MAPI interfaces.

Re: Calendars Cyrus

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Server is entirely Open Source; Outlook plugin (MAPI provider) is commercial. Works very well with Cyrus; which is its intended IMAP server. Speaking of calendars,... What about Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning? They can speak to WebDAV enabled ICS calendar format. With a special

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott M. Likens
I was using a Tomcat based CalDAV Server. for awhile, I forget what it's name was. However I have actually been using the CalDav server from apple lately (see url 1 in the the quote). It's been quite pleasant. I am sure there is better, there is worse. They have a great love of python

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott M. Likens
Ian, The only problem with using clamav-filter (or something appropriate) as a milter, etc. Was it did not fall into what Zimbra designed. Quite frankly I think it would have been a lot smoother with Sendmail+Milter+Clamav+whatever else they wanted. However, that is not the direction they

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott M. Likens
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: 3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load horribly. I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... I'm glad to know that I wasn't alone, even though I was positive I was

v2.3.10 build fails, pcreposix problems

2007-11-13 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
When trying to build Cyrus IMAP v2.3.10 on a Solaris 9 system, I get the following error: gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/cyrus/cyrus-imapd-2.3.10/sieve' ../com_err/et/compile_et ./sieve_err.et gcc -c -I.. -I./../lib -I../com_err/et -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4/include

Sieve redirect seems to stop script processing?

2007-11-13 Thread Davin Flatten
Hello- We are using Horde/Ingo against a Cyrus murder with three backend servers. When a user redirects there email the system generates the following script: ##INGO # sieve filter generated by Ingo (November 13, 2007, 10:08 am) require fileinto; # Forwards if true { redirect [EMAIL

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Zachariah Mully
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 14:29 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Never had a corrupt PST using ZideLook (the Outlook plugin for OpenGroupware). Make sue they provide a *real* MAPI provider for outlook and not some background sync thingy (as several Open Source Outlook connectors do or at least

Re: LARGE single-system Cyrus installs?

2007-11-13 Thread Michael Bacon
At the risk of being yet one more techie who thinks he has a workaround... I'm back (in the past two months) doing Cyrus administration after a three year break. I ran Cyrus instance at Duke University before, and am now getting up to speed to run the one at UNC. At Duke we started as a

Squatter causing load spike

2007-11-13 Thread Gerard
I am running squatter at 3am as a cron job on all of my servers. Over the passed week I have one server where squatter spikes the load and ends up locking up the server at around 8am every morning. Yeah, it seems to take that long to run which may be an issue in itself. Has anyone come accross

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Never had a corrupt PST using ZideLook (the Outlook plugin for OpenGroupware). Make sue they provide a *real* MAPI provider for outlook and not some background sync thingy (as several Open Source Outlook connectors do or at least did). I'll have to give OGo a shot again, when I tested

Re: Sieve redirect seems to stop script processing?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott M. Likens
*smack Ingo* That's horrid... require fileinto; if header :comparator i;ascii-casemap :contains X-Spam-Flag YES { fileinto INBOX.Spam; } else { fileinto INBOX;} I don't know what if true { is for... as that really doesn't make sense for me. But for the other portion of it.

Re: Squatter causing load spike

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Banz
On Nov 13, 2007, at 16:47, Gerard wrote: I am running squatter at 3am as a cron job on all of my servers. Over the passed week I have one server where squatter spikes the load and ends up locking up the server at around 8am every morning. Yeah, it seems to take that long to run which may be

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Zachariah Mully
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 12:22 -0800, Scott M. Likens wrote: Ian, The only problem with using clamav-filter (or something appropriate) as a milter, etc. Was it did not fall into what Zimbra designed. Quite frankly I think it would have been a lot smoother with Sendmail +Milter+Clamav+whatever

Re: Squatter causing load spike

2007-11-13 Thread Gerard
On Nov 13, 2007 5:07 PM, Rob Banz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 16:47, Gerard wrote: I am running squatter at 3am as a cron job on all of my servers. Over the passed week I have one server where squatter spikes the load and ends up locking up the server at around 8am every

Re: Squatter causing load spike

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Banz
It seems like the default for cyr_expire runs at 4:00AM (delprune cmd=cyr_expire -E 3 at=0400) and I start squatter at 3:00AM. Do you think that this would cause the spike and server to lock up? We are running RHEL4U4 They both compete for a lot of resources... You probably shouldn't run

Re: Replication: problems with synctest

2007-11-13 Thread Rich Wales
My earlier problem with synctest turned out to be caused by my not specifying an authentication name (-a argument on the command line). Since I didn't have an -a argument, synctest apparently decided to use my account name (from the USER environment variable?) as the authentication name -- which

RE: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

2007-11-13 Thread Joon Radley
Hi, This was quite some time ago, around the first release of their 2.x product IIRC. It was the outlook connector that would save all calendar entries from outlook to the IMAP server as binary messages, whereas the Horde web front end saved the entries in xml, so Cyrus was at least able to

OT: Collaboration replacement via Toltec/Bynari (was How many people to admin a Cyrus system?)

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Mueller
So you will have a choice of 3 commercial Outlook plug-ins, What are the 3 commercial Outlook plugins? Obviously the Toltec one, but which others? I've actually always liked the idea of what toltec + bynari were doing. It's basically using the IMAP server as a database where folders =