Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-15 Thread Scott Likens
of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who answers many help requests for cyrus (and I'm very far from the only one), I can honestly say I've never seen a requests from you. Perhaps you've had a lot of occasion to ask for help

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Ian G Batten a écrit : the mail, the indices, and the mailboxes.db. Each can be on separate storage with optimal price vs performance characteristics for the proposed load. We have 48000 mailboxes on behalf of 2000 users, with typically 1700 imapd processes during the day and ~1000

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Pascal Gienger
Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian G Batten a écrit : We have mailboxes.db and the metapartitions on ZFS, along with the zone iteself. The pool is drawn from space on four 1rpm SAS drives internal to the machine: To give (hopefully) comparable comparison: We have our meta

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who answers many help requests

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Pascal Gienger a écrit : Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok thanks ! A good point on the cyrus side ! What about the performance ? Depends on which size your scenario will be. Does my next configuration will run correctly ? Which hardware should I buy for this activity ?

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Pascal Gienger
Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thanks you for your participation but not for the way you do it because if you had read my second mail on this topic you wouldn't have to ask your crystal sphere to wonder what is my configuration !! I did miss your 2nd post, I am sorry. J'ai

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Tornoci Laszlo
Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Alain Spineux a écrit : 2008/8/11 Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs. Unfortunately I really

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Ian G Batten
the mail, the indices, and the mailboxes.db. Each can be on separate storage with optimal price vs performance characteristics for the proposed load. We have 48000 mailboxes on behalf of 2000 users, with typically 1700 imapd processes during the day and ~1000 overnight. There's about

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Pascal Gienger a écrit : Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thanks you for your participation but not for the way you do it because if you had read my second mail on this topic you wouldn't have to ask your crystal sphere to wonder what is my configuration !! I did miss your 2nd

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Tornoci Laszlo a écrit : Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Alain Spineux a écrit : 2008/8/11 Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs.

RE: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread kbajwa
Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Kirt Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
kbajwa a écrit : Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Kirt I guess you've right but I can't post this answer at Cyrus mailing list

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Pascal Gienger
Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kbajwa a écrit : Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 I guess you've right but I can't post this answer at Cyrus mailing list. I'm just trying to have my own opinion of imap server and I already have sarcastic answer on the cyrus mailing list !

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Wesley Craig
On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who answers many help requests for cyrus (and I'm very far from the only

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 01:07:34PM -0400, Wesley Craig wrote: On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Michael Menge
Hi, Quoting Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wesley Craig a écrit : On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:57, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: what is in use now ? Cyrus Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Are you having a problem with Cyrus? Migrating from any server to any other is likely

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : The real question is because we have only 2 options : Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Features like delayed expunge, message expiration, etc... that allow you to have a managed mail store. Cyrus is the only Open Source IMAP/POP server I know of

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 12:53 +0200, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : The real question is because we have only 2 options : Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Features like delayed expunge, message expiration, etc... that allow you to have a managed mail

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Pascal Gienger
Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok thanks ! A good point on the cyrus side ! What about the performance ? Depends on which size your scenario will be. Does my next configuration will run correctly ? Which hardware should I buy for this activity ? That's like asking a crystal

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 12:53 +0200, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : The real question is because we have only 2 options : Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Features like delayed expunge, message expiration, etc... that allow you

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Pascal Gienger
Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have allot of users and allot of mail you are going to have allot of I/O. No way around that, regardless of the server. Cyrus' indexes headers better now, so that might help. But you still need adequate through-put. I've found that

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Wesley Craig
On 12 Aug 2008, at 06:53, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: At present, we have a lot of I/O, we wonder if the last version of cyrus is improved for this point ? Recent versions have several features designed to allow very large scaling of I/O. In addition to optimization to the old architecture,

Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs. Unfortunately I really don't know cyrus and I would like to have some of its assets. Here are the properties of the versus

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Alain Spineux
2008/8/11 Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs. Unfortunately I really don't know cyrus and I would like to have some of its

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Alain Spineux a écrit : 2008/8/11 Mathieu Kretchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs. Unfortunately I really don't know cyrus and I would

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Wesley Craig
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:57, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: what is in use now ? Cyrus Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Are you having a problem with Cyrus? Migrating from any server to any other is likely to be challenging (to say the least), so you ought to have a pretty

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
The real question is because we have only 2 options : Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Features like delayed expunge, message expiration, etc... that allow you to have a managed mail store. Cyrus is the only Open Source IMAP/POP server I know of with any capacity to support

Re: Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Wesley Craig a écrit : On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:57, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: what is in use now ? Cyrus Why should I choose Cyrus instead of dovecot ? Are you having a problem with Cyrus? Migrating from any server to any other is likely to be challenging (to say the least), so you ought to