Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:07:00PM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote: > I believe those of you who are trying to defend the OP's scheme are also > failing to understand and even define the actual problem at hand. That would be everyone else on this list I believe. Because we realise that the real world

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:20:19 -0800 (PST), David Lang wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > you have focused on the fact that he wants to use fetchmail as the transport > between the full-time internet and his intermittently connected netw

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:47 -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote: > Use SMTP to breech the unreliable link! It's safe, proven, and designed > for that very task! ... and not an option at some mail providers, which are mandatory for some people because they are their employer whose mail they must read. For

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Russell Jackson wrote: > Xavier Bestel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a small install with cyrus-imapd 2.3.14, which reads some of its >> mails with fetchmail. To limit the delay in mail delivery, fetchmail >> awakes each minute to get mails. >> What I would like is let fetchmail do that only when ther

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Xavier Bestel wrote: > Hi, > > I have a small install with cyrus-imapd 2.3.14, which reads some of its > mails with fetchmail. To limit the delay in mail delivery, fetchmail > awakes each minute to get mails. > What I would like is let fetchmail do that only when there's a client > actually readin

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:55:25 -0800 (PST), David Lang > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> no, SMTP only works if you have network connectivity that is up most of the >> ti

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:21:24 +0100, Xavier Bestel > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> Do you gain anything if Cyrus doesn't >> fulfill the needs of some users ? >

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:21:24 +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > Do you gain anything if Cyrus doesn't > fulfill the needs of some users ? Did I ever say Cyrus should or should not meet the needs of some users?

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:55:25 -0800 (PST), David Lang wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > no, SMTP only works if you have network connectivity that is up most of the > time. it will handle short outages, but it will not handle the case

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:55:25AM -0800, David Lang wrote: > >>> Use SMTP to breech the unreliable link! It's safe, proven, and designed >>> for that very task! >> >> no, SMTP only works if you have network connectivity that is up most of the >> time. i

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:55:25AM -0800, David Lang wrote: > > Use SMTP to breech the unreliable link! It's safe, proven, and designed > > for that very task! > > no, SMTP only works if you have network connectivity that is up most of the > time. it will handle short outages, but it will not h

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 13:53 -0500, Greg A. Woods a écrit : > I'd very much like to stop anyone from offering such hacks as > "solutions" to others though, especially when there are perfectly good > alternatives which don't violate any protocol layers and which are > infinitely more robust and

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:30 +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 11:08:31AM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote: >>> >>> Just get a

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:05:53 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > So what? Seriously, if a tool accomplishes the task... and > accomplishing the task is the purpose for the technology to exist in the > first

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:30 +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 11:08:31AM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > > Just get a forwarding alias installed on the remote mail server and then

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

> > but then why not fetchmail to the cyrus setup directly > > too? > Well, partly because fetchmail is a rather horrible hack in terms of its > code and implementation, So what? Seriously, if a tool accomplishes the task... and accomplishing the task is the purpose for the technology to exist

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 11:08:31AM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:07:04 -0500, "Anthony Tibbs" > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > > > > > You know, I don't know if I agree

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:07:04 -0500, "Anthony Tibbs" wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > > You know, I don't know if I agree with all the objections over this person's > request. I actually have a similar setup w

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

to your cyrus setup - and move messages manually, but then why not fetchmail to the cyrus setup directly too? - Original Message - From: "Greg A. Woods" To: "Cyrus User's Mailing List" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cy

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:58 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:18 +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > > To me using offlineimap to sync my mailbox I much faster than doing > > IMAP over slow links. It also gives me a backup of my mailbox very > > easily. > > I'm thinking ab

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:18 +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > Citeren David Lang : > > what do you consider a 'modern IMAP client' that is actually reasonably > > efficiant to use? > I can't help you answer that question. But I can share my setup. I use Evolution on my laptop, I don't know if it is "

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Citeren Bron Gondwana : > You might want this patch: > > http://github.com/brong/brong-offlineimap/commit/7846ab83c5c45911749ab1cb42569702363a619b > > You'll need a pretty current Cyrus of course, but then you get > COMPRESS=DEFLATE support built in to offlineimap. I find about > 80% bandwidth

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:18:17AM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > > Citeren David Lang : > > > what do you consider a 'modern IMAP client' that is actually reasonably > > efficiant to use? > > I can't help you answer that question. But I can share my setup. > > I'm using the offlineimap client s

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:15:08AM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote: > Too bad, so sad. Seriously. If you really want to use e-mail address > at some antique domain where IMAP access is still not available, and > where e-mail forwarding is also not available, then you can still just > set up your MUA s

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Citeren David Lang : > what do you consider a 'modern IMAP client' that is actually reasonably > efficiant to use? I can't help you answer that question. But I can share my setup. I'm using the offlineimap client so sync my IMAP (Cyrus of course) accounts (2 in fact). I then use mutt to rea

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:59:21 +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > - not all mail providers do IMAP. Too bad, so sad. Seriously. If you really want to use e-mail address at some antique domain where IMAP access is still no

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Xavier Bestel wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:07 -0700, David Lang wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: >>> >>>> At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang >>>> wrote: >>>>

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:07 -0700, David Lang wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: >> >>> At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang >>> wrote: >>> Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:07 -0700, David Lang wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang > > wrote: > > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > >> > >>

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> I possibly missed it, but I didn't see anything that said that fetchmail was >&

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:36 -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > > > I possibly missed it, but I didn't see anything that said that f

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT), David Lang wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > I possibly missed it, but I didn't see anything that said that fetchmail was > grabbing things via IMAP. Yup, I think you missed it. > if

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:00:34 -0700 (PDT), David Lang > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> as long as you are willing to limit yourself to a single MUA on a single >> desktop

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:00:34 -0700 (PDT), David Lang wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > as long as you are willing to limit yourself to a single MUA on a single > desktop/laptop. > > if you want to be able to access your mail fr

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:43:41 -0700 (PDT), David Lang > wrote: > Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> there can be cases where you are providing mail services for several people, >>

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:43:41 -0700 (PDT), David Lang wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > there can be cases where you are providing mail services for several people, > or > have multiple machines you use yourself where having

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

> Getting Cyrus to actually trigger something is much more complex - but > you could easily do something with an inotify on the directory if you > want smaller than a minute resolution. -- openSUSE Linux for human beings who need t

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:54:12 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client Le mardi 20 octobre 2009 à 13:00 -0700, David Lang a écrit : On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Tue, 20 Oct

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:56:42 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > That may be an answer, yes. However I'd have preferred if the signal > came from Cyrus directly (I think it'sa more robust solution). Not usi

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:54:12 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > Le mardi 20 octobre 2009 à 13:00 -0700, David Lang a écrit : > > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > > > At Tue, 20 Oct 20

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:56:42PM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > Hi, > > Le mardi 20 octobre 2009 à 22:22 +0200, steff...@gmx.de a écrit : > > maybe logsurfer (or something similar) would be of help, you could > > monitor your cyrus logs with it and run fetchmail accordingly: > > > > http://www.c

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Hi, Le mardi 20 octobre 2009 à 22:22 +0200, steff...@gmx.de a écrit : > maybe logsurfer (or something similar) would be of help, you could > monitor your cyrus logs with it and run fetchmail accordingly: > > http://www.crypt.gen.nz/logsurfer/ > http://sourceforge.net/projects/logsurfer/ That may

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Le mardi 20 octobre 2009 à 13:00 -0700, David Lang a écrit : > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:36:24 +0200, Xavier Bestel > > wrote: > > Subject: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > >> > >>

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Hi there, maybe logsurfer (or something similar) would be of help, you could monitor your cyrus logs with it and run fetchmail accordingly: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/logsurfer/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/logsurfer/ Regards, Stephan Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 19:36:24 schrieb Xavier Bestel:

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:36:24 +0200, Xavier Bestel > wrote: > Subject: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client >> >> I have a small install with cyrus-imapd 2.3.14, which reads some of its >> mails with

Re: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

At Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:36:24 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Subject: Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client > > I have a small install with cyrus-imapd 2.3.14, which reads some of its > mails with fetchmail. To limit the delay in mail delivery, fetchmail > awakes e

Exec'ing a script from Cyrus when imapd has a client

Hi, I have a small install with cyrus-imapd 2.3.14, which reads some of its mails with fetchmail. To limit the delay in mail delivery, fetchmail awakes each minute to get mails. What I would like is let fetchmail do that only when there's a client actually reading its mails, i.e. an MUA actually c