Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-04-06 Thread Merlin Hartley via Info-cyrus
Thanks Nic that looks useful Unfortunately ‘info' doesn’t seem to function on our installation: localhost> lm shared/mbujobs shared/mbujobs (\HasChildren) localhost> lam shared/mbujobs jt lrswipkxtecda merlin lrs anonymous p ij lrswipkxtecda localhost> info shared/mbujobs localhost> localhost>

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-04-06 Thread Nic Bernstein via Info-cyrus
On 03/18/2016 05:48 AM, Merlin Hartley via Info-cyrus wrote: ... Of course, over-time more complexity is always required and I have recently implemented a few shared mailboxes (rather than just sharing user mailboxes). Inevitably, the users are now asking for an auto-reply to be configured for

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-03-19 Thread Bron Gondwana via Info-cyrus
We don't use shared mailboxes or non-user sieve at all at FastMail, so it gets less testing than most things. I'd love to have contributions of good test cases to Cassandane from someone who knows exactly how this should work so we can make sieve good for the shared case too. It's somewhat tricky

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-03-19 Thread Merlin Hartley via Info-cyrus
Sorry I wasn’t clear: we are using an alias with +plus addressing and lmtp to deliver into the shared mailbox I have the shared mailbox working just fine… it is only the sieve on shared mailboxes that is failing... aliases file: mbujobs: +shared/mbujobs exim router: imap_shared_accept: drive

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-03-19 Thread Alvin Starr via Info-cyrus
I have had mixed luck with direct mailbox delivery(+ addressing) and when I say mixed I mean mostly bad. I wanted to try using it for direct delivery of copies of all sent messages. I found I needed special permissions on all the mailboxes and duplicate delivery detection would not work in that

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-03-19 Thread Alvin Starr via Info-cyrus
Sieve is run as part of the mail delivery into the mailbox. That would either be deliver or the lmtp interface. If your users are dragging and dropping the messages into the shared mailboxes then I don't believe that you can have sieve run on the mbox to mbox transfer. On 03/18/2016 06:48 AM

Sieve for shared mailboxes

2016-03-18 Thread Merlin Hartley via Info-cyrus
Greetings I have been managing our mail domain on a cyrus-imap (&exim) server since 2005 and it has always been great for our ~150 users. Of course, over-time more complexity is always required and I have recently implemented a few shared mailboxes (rather than just sharing user mailboxes). Ine

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-22 Thread Pat Lashley
--On Monday, March 22, 2004 13:22:52 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig Ringer wrote: On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 02:28, Rob Siemborski wrote: > It also opens a world of possibility for new bugs. There definately isn't > a consensus on what the desireable behavior here is. User

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-22 Thread +archive . info-cyrus
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig Ringer wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 02:28, Rob Siemborski wrote: > > > It also opens a world of possibility for new bugs. There definately isn't > > a consensus on what the desireable behavior here is. > > User-created sieve loops strike me as one "fun" possibility to

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-22 Thread Craig Ringer
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 02:28, Rob Siemborski wrote: > It also opens a world of possibility for new bugs. There definately isn't > a consensus on what the desireable behavior here is. User-created sieve loops strike me as one "fun" possibility to be avoided at all costs. Craig Ringer --- Home Pa

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-22 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig Ringer wrote: > User-created sieve loops strike me as one "fun" possibility to be > avoided at all costs. Well, ok, there's a consensus on *that*. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski * Andrew Systems Group * Cyert

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-22 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Stephen Grier wrote: > Isn't it the case that for user-space mailboxes, sieve scripts are only > applied on delivery via LMTP, and not when a message is copied or > fileintod it? I don't see why the same behaviour wouldn't be adequate > for shared mailboxes. It isn't quite th

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-20 Thread Ken Murchison
cases the need was so pressing for that that I just created the "shared" folder under the "user." hierarchy. Any work on Sieve for shared mailboxes would probably start with one script per mailbox, without inheritance, and would only be processed at deliver time via LMTP. Hav

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-19 Thread +archive . info-cyrus
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Stephen Grier wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 01:09, Ken Murchison wrote: > > The biggest issue with sieve opn shared folders is how to use them. Are > > they only executed when mail is delivered via LMTP, or are they executed > > any time a message is inserted into the mailbo

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-19 Thread Stephen Grier
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 01:09, Ken Murchison wrote: > Stephen Grier wrote: > > > What is the current situation with Sieve for shared mailboxes? I've read > > the discussion from last July on the cyrus-devel list, subject > > "[PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailbox

Re: Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-18 Thread Ken Murchison
Stephen Grier wrote: What is the current situation with Sieve for shared mailboxes? I've read the discussion from last July on the cyrus-devel list, subject "[PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes", but I can't find any anything on the subject more recent than this. Is it st

Sieve for shared mailboxes

2004-03-17 Thread Stephen Grier
What is the current situation with Sieve for shared mailboxes? I've read the discussion from last July on the cyrus-devel list, subject "[PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes", but I can't find any anything on the subject more recent than this. Is it still the intention to u

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-09 Thread Ken Murchison
Rob Mueller wrote: Actually, my intent wasn't to _store_ a script via IMAP ANNOTATEMORE. I was only intending to _select_ (activate) a script via the annotation. I still anticipate using MANAGESIEVE to do the upload/download. Would it be hard to add the ability to store scripts as well? It wou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 8 Jul 2003, Ken Murchison writes: > Just out of curiousity, are there any non-eLISP IMAP clients? Sure, all the ones written in other languages... oh, that's not what you meant?Parsing that as "(non-e)LISP IMAP clients": One called PostOffice is at http://opensource.franz.com/postoffice/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Rob Mueller
> Actually, my intent wasn't to _store_ a script via IMAP ANNOTATEMORE. I > was only intending to _select_ (activate) a script via the annotation. > I still anticipate using MANAGESIEVE to do the upload/download. Would it be hard to add the ability to store scripts as well? It would be nice to be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
Amos Gouaux wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:33:53 -0400, Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (km) writes: km> IIRC, the original IMAP client written by Mark Crispin was written in LISP. Hey, some of us still use (e)LISP mail clients, not that I'm Right. I've been known to use Emacs to read email

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:33:53 -0400, > Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (km) writes: km> IIRC, the original IMAP client written by Mark Crispin was written in LISP. Hey, some of us still use (e)LISP mail clients, not that I'm encouraging a client/language debate. Really. ;-) -- Amos

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
Stephen L. Ulmer wrote: Of course if Cyrus IMAPd were implemented in LISP Now that's old school. ;) I'm sure I've forgotten more about LISP, and functional languages in general, than I remember. IIRC, the original IMAP client written by Mark Crispin was written in LISP. -- Kenneth Murch

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Cyrus Daboo
Hi Ken, --On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 11:34 AM -0400 Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> What about IMAP APPEND? Does that trigger the script? It really ought to |> as well. | | I hadn't anticipated this. What would be the need/advantage of this? | There is a huge potential for using sieve

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
Cyrus Daboo wrote: Hi Rob, --On Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:08 AM +1000 Rob Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> True. I hadn't thought about that. This might be worth exploring. | | I think this would be great. Personally I found the whole concept of | having an entirely different protocol

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Cyrus Daboo
Hi Rob, --On Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:08 AM +1000 Rob Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> True. I hadn't thought about that. This might be worth exploring. | | I think this would be great. Personally I found the whole concept of | having an entirely different protocol to manage sieve scrip

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Rob Mueller
> > Should a script attached to INBOX actually be the users primary > > (delivery) SIEVE script? If so setting that script via IMAP ANNTATEMORE > > should have the same effect as doing so via ManageSIEVE. > > > > True. I hadn't thought about that. This might be worth exploring. I think this woul

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:59:20 -0400, > Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (km) writes: km> Now that Cyrus 2.2 has support for mailbox annotations, I believe km> that we can provide the functionality that people desire. I just have to say: WOOHOO!!! :-) OK, perhaps a little premature, bu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
Cyrus Daboo wrote: Hi Ken, --On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 9:59 AM -0400 Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | In the past, people have requested the ability to run sieve scripts when | messages are posted directly to shared mailboxes (via +detail | addressing). I have suggested that this wo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
Stephen L. Ulmer wrote: On 8 Jul 2003, Ken Murchison stated: In the past, people have requested the ability to run sieve scripts when messages are posted directly to shared mailboxes (via +detail addressing). I have suggested that this would be possible by associating a script with the 'postu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Cyrus Daboo
Hi Ken, --On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 9:59 AM -0400 Ken Murchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | In the past, people have requested the ability to run sieve scripts when | messages are posted directly to shared mailboxes (via +detail | addressing). I have suggested that this would be possible by ass

[PROPOSAL] Sieve for shared mailboxes

2003-07-08 Thread Ken Murchison
In the past, people have requested the ability to run sieve scripts when messages are posted directly to shared mailboxes (via +detail addressing). I have suggested that this would be possible by associating a script with the 'postuser' (typically "bb" or ""), but this was deemed unacceptable