Re: Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread kvaps
Yes, my version is 2.5.11-10.11.el7.kolab_16, and seems there is this
bug, so shared folder sieves not working there
https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/1453


- kvaps
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:13 PM kvaps  wrote:
>
> Sorry for confuse. I was little confused myself :)
>
> Yes, my user and few other users subscribed to this shared folder.
> Each user have own seen status for this folder - this is ok.
> But folder is big and have new mails quite often.
>
> Each user should react different mails in this mailbox.
> For now I receive notifications for all new mails, this is really annoying.
> I need notifications only for few of them, eg "mails with specific
> word in subject", the rest should be marked as seen.
> Usually this behavior can be configured via sieve script, but in case
> with shared folders it is not working.
> Global sieve script for shared folder will not work too, because it
> changes global seen state, but state for each user.
>
> Probably no way, as you said before.
>
> - kvaps
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:10 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:
> >
> > Your use of the phrase "connected to all users" and, earlier, "connected 
> > and subscribed", is confusing.  Am I correct to assume you mean the folder 
> > is "subscribed" by all users?  There is no such thing asa mailbox/folder 
> > being "connected" as a state.  It may be subscribed or not, it may be 
> > connected to, by a client, but "connected" is not a static condition.
> >
> > Cyrus can support shared seen state, but it's also not clear, from your 
> > messages, if you want shared seen state, or don't want it?  Just what are 
> > you trying to achieve?
> >
> > Also, which version of Cyrus are you using?  Current is 3.0.8, historic is 
> > 2.5.12, development is 3.1.X.
> >
> > The rule with user sieve scripts is that they may only act on that user's 
> > mailboxes, not on shared mailboxes which one is subscribed to.  If you want 
> > to have new messages in a shared mailbox show as new for each user, 
> > separately, then you need to disable shared seen.  This may be done on the 
> > mailbox level, using the cyradm(8) command, with the mboxcfg subcommand:
> >
> > localhost> info office
> > {office}:
> >   private:
> > check: NIL
> > checkperiod: NIL
> > comment: NIL
> > sort: NIL
> > specialuse: NIL
> > thread: NIL
> > expire: NIL
> > news2mail: NIL
> > sieve: NIL
> > squat: NIL
> >   shared:
> > check: NIL
> > checkperiod: NIL
> > comment: NIL
> > sort: NIL
> > specialuse: NIL
> > thread: NIL
> > annotsize: 0
> > duplicatedeliver: false
> > expire: NIL
> > lastpop: NIL
> > lastupdate: 31-Jul-2018 09:59:20 -0500
> > news2mail: NIL
> > partition: default
> > pop3newuidl: true
> > pop3showafter: NIL
> > sharedseen: false
> > sieve: NIL
> > size: 4101
> > squat: NIL
> > synccrcs: 1118531081 0
> > uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8
> > localhost> mboxcfg office sharedseen true
> > localhost> info office
> > {office}:
> >   private:
> > check: NIL
> > checkperiod: NIL
> > comment: NIL
> > sort: NIL
> > specialuse: NIL
> > thread: NIL
> > expire: NIL
> > news2mail: NIL
> > sieve: NIL
> > squat: NIL
> >   shared:
> > check: NIL
> > checkperiod: NIL
> > comment: NIL
> > sort: NIL
> > specialuse: NIL
> > thread: NIL
> > annotsize: 0
> > duplicatedeliver: false
> > expire: NIL
> > lastpop: NIL
> > lastupdate:  9-Oct-2018 10:09:19 -0500
> > news2mail: NIL
> > partition: default
> > pop3newuidl: true
> > pop3showafter: NIL
> > sharedseen: true
> > sieve: NIL
> > size: 4101
> > squat: NIL
> > synccrcs: 1118531081 0
> > uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8
> >
> > Is that what you're trying to achieve, changing the setting of Shared \Seen?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -nic
> >
> > On 10/09/2018 12:16 PM, kvaps wrote:
> >
> > Hi, thanks for quick answer,
> >
> > Yes, I know about shared folder sieves, but I have aniother case:
> >
> > Eg I have some users:
> >
> >   user/us...@example.org
> >   user/us...@example.org
> >   user/us...@example.org
> >
> > and shared folder
> >
> >   shared/t...@example.org
> >
> > This folder connected to all users and have no shared seen state.
> > I need to set seen flag automatically for user1, and keep second as unseen.
> >
> > - kvaps
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:
> >
> > Kvaps,
> > It is unclear from your message just where this "shared folder" is
> > rooted and where your sieve scripts are.  Do you mean a folder which is
> > outside of the "user" name space?  If so, you cannot manage message
> > delivery to this folder via user sieve scripts, but must use global
> > sieve scripts instead.
> >
> > Please see the documentation here:
> > https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders
> >

Re: Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread kvaps
Sorry for confuse. I was little confused myself :)

Yes, my user and few other users subscribed to this shared folder.
Each user have own seen status for this folder - this is ok.
But folder is big and have new mails quite often.

Each user should react different mails in this mailbox.
For now I receive notifications for all new mails, this is really annoying.
I need notifications only for few of them, eg "mails with specific
word in subject", the rest should be marked as seen.
Usually this behavior can be configured via sieve script, but in case
with shared folders it is not working.
Global sieve script for shared folder will not work too, because it
changes global seen state, but state for each user.

Probably no way, as you said before.

- kvaps
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:10 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:
>
> Your use of the phrase "connected to all users" and, earlier, "connected and 
> subscribed", is confusing.  Am I correct to assume you mean the folder is 
> "subscribed" by all users?  There is no such thing asa mailbox/folder being 
> "connected" as a state.  It may be subscribed or not, it may be connected to, 
> by a client, but "connected" is not a static condition.
>
> Cyrus can support shared seen state, but it's also not clear, from your 
> messages, if you want shared seen state, or don't want it?  Just what are you 
> trying to achieve?
>
> Also, which version of Cyrus are you using?  Current is 3.0.8, historic is 
> 2.5.12, development is 3.1.X.
>
> The rule with user sieve scripts is that they may only act on that user's 
> mailboxes, not on shared mailboxes which one is subscribed to.  If you want 
> to have new messages in a shared mailbox show as new for each user, 
> separately, then you need to disable shared seen.  This may be done on the 
> mailbox level, using the cyradm(8) command, with the mboxcfg subcommand:
>
> localhost> info office
> {office}:
>   private:
> check: NIL
> checkperiod: NIL
> comment: NIL
> sort: NIL
> specialuse: NIL
> thread: NIL
> expire: NIL
> news2mail: NIL
> sieve: NIL
> squat: NIL
>   shared:
> check: NIL
> checkperiod: NIL
> comment: NIL
> sort: NIL
> specialuse: NIL
> thread: NIL
> annotsize: 0
> duplicatedeliver: false
> expire: NIL
> lastpop: NIL
> lastupdate: 31-Jul-2018 09:59:20 -0500
> news2mail: NIL
> partition: default
> pop3newuidl: true
> pop3showafter: NIL
> sharedseen: false
> sieve: NIL
> size: 4101
> squat: NIL
> synccrcs: 1118531081 0
> uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8
> localhost> mboxcfg office sharedseen true
> localhost> info office
> {office}:
>   private:
> check: NIL
> checkperiod: NIL
> comment: NIL
> sort: NIL
> specialuse: NIL
> thread: NIL
> expire: NIL
> news2mail: NIL
> sieve: NIL
> squat: NIL
>   shared:
> check: NIL
> checkperiod: NIL
> comment: NIL
> sort: NIL
> specialuse: NIL
> thread: NIL
> annotsize: 0
> duplicatedeliver: false
> expire: NIL
> lastpop: NIL
> lastupdate:  9-Oct-2018 10:09:19 -0500
> news2mail: NIL
> partition: default
> pop3newuidl: true
> pop3showafter: NIL
> sharedseen: true
> sieve: NIL
> size: 4101
> squat: NIL
> synccrcs: 1118531081 0
> uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8
>
> Is that what you're trying to achieve, changing the setting of Shared \Seen?
>
> Cheers,
> -nic
>
> On 10/09/2018 12:16 PM, kvaps wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for quick answer,
>
> Yes, I know about shared folder sieves, but I have aniother case:
>
> Eg I have some users:
>
>   user/us...@example.org
>   user/us...@example.org
>   user/us...@example.org
>
> and shared folder
>
>   shared/t...@example.org
>
> This folder connected to all users and have no shared seen state.
> I need to set seen flag automatically for user1, and keep second as unseen.
>
> - kvaps
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:
>
> Kvaps,
> It is unclear from your message just where this "shared folder" is
> rooted and where your sieve scripts are.  Do you mean a folder which is
> outside of the "user" name space?  If so, you cannot manage message
> delivery to this folder via user sieve scripts, but must use global
> sieve scripts instead.
>
> Please see the documentation here:
> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders
>
> I hope this is helpful information,
>  -nic
>
> On 10/09/2018 11:57 AM, kvaps wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have shared folder which connected and subscribed in my mailbox, it
> is looks like normal subfolder., but my sieve scripts not handle mail
> inside it.
>
> I want to set seen flag for new messages inside this folder
> automatically by sieve script.
> Is it possible for configure sieve-script working for connected folders too?
>
> - kvaps
> 
> Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/
> List 

Re: Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread Nic Bernstein
Your use of the phrase "connected to all users" and, earlier, "connected 
and subscribed", is confusing.  Am I correct to assume you mean the 
folder is "subscribed" by all users?  There is no such thing asa 
mailbox/folder being "connected" as a state.  It may be subscribed or 
not, it may be connected to, by a client, but "connected" is not a 
static condition.


Cyrus can support shared seen state, but it's also not clear, from your 
messages, if you want shared seen state, or don't want it? Just what are 
you trying to achieve?


Also, which version of Cyrus are you using?  Current is 3.0.8, historic 
is 2.5.12, development is 3.1.X.


The rule with user sieve scripts is that they may only act on that 
user's mailboxes, not on shared mailboxes which one is subscribed to.  
If you want to have new messages in a shared mailbox show as new for 
each user, separately, then you need to disable shared seen.  This may 
be done on the mailbox level, using the cyradm(8) command, with the 
mboxcfg subcommand:


   localhost>*info office*
   {office}:
  private:
check: NIL
checkperiod: NIL
comment: NIL
sort: NIL
specialuse: NIL
thread: NIL
expire: NIL
news2mail: NIL
sieve: NIL
squat: NIL
  shared:
check: NIL
checkperiod: NIL
comment: NIL
sort: NIL
specialuse: NIL
thread: NIL
annotsize: 0
duplicatedeliver: false
expire: NIL
lastpop: NIL
lastupdate: 31-Jul-2018 09:59:20 -0500
news2mail: NIL
partition: default
pop3newuidl: true
pop3showafter: NIL
   *sharedseen: false*
sieve: NIL
size: 4101
squat: NIL
synccrcs: 1118531081 0
uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8
   localhost> mboxcfg office sharedseen true
   localhost>*info office*   
   {office}:

  private:
check: NIL
checkperiod: NIL
comment: NIL
sort: NIL
specialuse: NIL
thread: NIL
expire: NIL
news2mail: NIL
sieve: NIL
squat: NIL
  shared:
check: NIL
checkperiod: NIL
comment: NIL
sort: NIL
specialuse: NIL
thread: NIL
annotsize: 0
duplicatedeliver: false
expire: NIL
lastpop: NIL
lastupdate:  9-Oct-2018 10:09:19 -0500
news2mail: NIL
partition: default
pop3newuidl: true
pop3showafter: NIL
   *sharedseen: true*
sieve: NIL
size: 4101
squat: NIL
synccrcs: 1118531081 0
uniqueid: 4c8f66f0-9f6a-4fa1-b8bf-547afa1ec5e8

Is that what you're trying to achieve, changing the setting of Shared \Seen?

Cheers,
    -nic

On 10/09/2018 12:16 PM, kvaps wrote:

Hi, thanks for quick answer,

Yes, I know about shared folder sieves, but I have aniother case:

Eg I have some users:

   user/us...@example.org
   user/us...@example.org
   user/us...@example.org

and shared folder

   shared/t...@example.org

This folder connected to all users and have no shared seen state.
I need to set seen flag automatically for user1, and keep second as unseen.

- kvaps
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:

Kvaps,
It is unclear from your message just where this "shared folder" is
rooted and where your sieve scripts are.  Do you mean a folder which is
outside of the "user" name space?  If so, you cannot manage message
delivery to this folder via user sieve scripts, but must use global
sieve scripts instead.

Please see the documentation here:
https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders

I hope this is helpful information,
  -nic

On 10/09/2018 11:57 AM, kvaps wrote:

Hello,

I have shared folder which connected and subscribed in my mailbox, it
is looks like normal subfolder., but my sieve scripts not handle mail
inside it.

I want to set seen flag for new messages inside this folder
automatically by sieve script.
Is it possible for configure sieve-script working for connected folders too?

- kvaps

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Re: Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread kvaps
Hi, thanks for quick answer,

Yes, I know about shared folder sieves, but I have aniother case:

Eg I have some users:

  user/us...@example.org
  user/us...@example.org
  user/us...@example.org

and shared folder

  shared/t...@example.org

This folder connected to all users and have no shared seen state.
I need to set seen flag automatically for user1, and keep second as unseen.

- kvaps
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM Nic Bernstein  wrote:
>
> Kvaps,
> It is unclear from your message just where this "shared folder" is
> rooted and where your sieve scripts are.  Do you mean a folder which is
> outside of the "user" name space?  If so, you cannot manage message
> delivery to this folder via user sieve scripts, but must use global
> sieve scripts instead.
>
> Please see the documentation here:
> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders
>
> I hope this is helpful information,
>  -nic
>
> On 10/09/2018 11:57 AM, kvaps wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have shared folder which connected and subscribed in my mailbox, it
> > is looks like normal subfolder., but my sieve scripts not handle mail
> > inside it.
> >
> > I want to set seen flag for new messages inside this folder
> > automatically by sieve script.
> > Is it possible for configure sieve-script working for connected folders too?
> >
> > - kvaps
> > 
> > Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/
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> 6525 W Bluemound Rd., Ste 24  v. 414.272.4477
> Milwaukee, Wisconsin  53213-4073  f. 414.290.0335
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Re: Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread Nic Bernstein

Kvaps,
It is unclear from your message just where this "shared folder" is 
rooted and where your sieve scripts are.  Do you mean a folder which is 
outside of the "user" name space?  If so, you cannot manage message 
delivery to this folder via user sieve scripts, but must use global 
sieve scripts instead.


Please see the documentation here:
https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/sieve.html#sieve-scripts-in-shared-folders

I hope this is helpful information,
    -nic

On 10/09/2018 11:57 AM, kvaps wrote:

Hello,

I have shared folder which connected and subscribed in my mailbox, it
is looks like normal subfolder., but my sieve scripts not handle mail
inside it.

I want to set seen flag for new messages inside this folder
automatically by sieve script.
Is it possible for configure sieve-script working for connected folders too?

- kvaps

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Sieve scripts execution for connected folders

2018-10-09 Thread kvaps
Hello,

I have shared folder which connected and subscribed in my mailbox, it
is looks like normal subfolder., but my sieve scripts not handle mail
inside it.

I want to set seen flag for new messages inside this folder
automatically by sieve script.
Is it possible for configure sieve-script working for connected folders too?

- kvaps

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