Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus]

Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2015, 06:36 -0500 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams via
Info-cyrus:
> globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > > > > delprune  cmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7"
> > > > > at=0501
> > > > > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7
> > > > > days,
> > > > > but
> > > > > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> > > > Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to
> > > > delayed.
> > > > Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:
> > > You can set an expire annotation per mailbox.  
> > How do I do that? From cyr_expire manpage:
> > "The value of the /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation is
> > inherited by all children of the given mailbox, so an entire mailbox
> > tree can be expired by seting a single annotation on the root of that
> > tree. If a mailbox does not have a /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire
> > annotation set on it (or does not inherit one), then no messages are
> > expired from the mailbox."
> 
> Via cyradm -
> 
> cyrus.example.com> mboxcfg user.adam expire 365 
> cyrus.example.com> info user.adam 
> {user.adam}: 
>   condstore: false 
>   duplicatedeliver: false 
>   expire: 365 
>   lastpop:  
>   lastupdate: 13-Aug-2008 19:37:31 -0400 
>   partition: default 
>   sharedseen: false 
>   size: 12325671
> 
> AFAIK the annotations supported by cyradm/mboxcfg are:
> 
> * comment – A free-form text comment or description to be attached to
> the mailbox.
> * condstore – This annotation is only supported in the 2.3.x release
> series starting with 2.3.3 although its use is not recommended until
> 2.3.8. As of the 2.4.x release series CONDSTORE functionality is
> enabled on all mailboxes regardless of annotation and attempting to set
> this annotation will result in a permission denied message. On releases
> where this annotation is supported setting a value of “true” will
> enable CONDSTORE functionality1.
> * expire – If an expire value is provided messages will be
> automatically deleted from the mailbox once the specified number of
> days has elapsed.
> * news2mail - 
> * sharedseen - Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages
> rather than a per-user \Seen flag. The 's' right in the mailbox ACL
> still controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
> * sieve – In the case of a shared folder the “sieve” parameter
> specifies the name of a global SIEVE script that will be used for every
> message delivered to the folder.  This value is ignored for personal
> mailboxes (mailboxes including and subordinate to a user's INBOX).
> * squat – Flags the mailbox to be included for indexing when the SQUAT
> process performs index generation.
> 
> 
> > But is it possible to expunge a message immediately when it's deleted
> > by client and not with the next expire run?
> 
> Not if delayed expunge is enabled AFAIK; that would defeat the purpose.

I set "mboxcfg user.test expire 1" on a test mailbox, but it has no
effect on nightly delprune set in cyrus.conf EVENT: 

  delprune cmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501"

Messages deleted two days ago are still in the file system.

localhost> info user.test
{user.test}:
  duplicatedeliver: false
  expire: 1
  lastpop:  
  lastupdate:  4-Nov-2015 17:14:20 +0100
  partition: default
  pop3newuidl: true
  sharedseen: false
  size: 0


Any ideas?

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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Andrew Morgan via Info-cyrus]

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus wrote:


Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2015, 06:36 -0500 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams via
Info-cyrus:

globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > > > delprunecmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7"
> > > > at=0501
> > > > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7
> > > > days,
> > > > but
> > > > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> > > Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to
> > > delayed.
> > > Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:
> > You can set an expire annotation per mailbox. 
> How do I do that? From cyr_expire manpage:

> "The value of the /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation is
> inherited by all children of the given mailbox, so an entire mailbox
> tree can be expired by seting a single annotation on the root of that
> tree. If a mailbox does not have a /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire
> annotation set on it (or does not inherit one), then no messages are
> expired from the mailbox."

Via cyradm -

cyrus.example.com> mboxcfg user.adam expire 365 
cyrus.example.com> info user.adam 
{user.adam}:

  condstore: false
  duplicatedeliver: false
  expire: 365
  lastpop:
  lastupdate: 13-Aug-2008 19:37:31 -0400
  partition: default
  sharedseen: false
  size: 12325671

AFAIK the annotations supported by cyradm/mboxcfg are:

* comment – A free-form text comment or description to be attached to
the mailbox.
* condstore – This annotation is only supported in the 2.3.x release
series starting with 2.3.3 although its use is not recommended until
2.3.8. As of the 2.4.x release series CONDSTORE functionality is
enabled on all mailboxes regardless of annotation and attempting to set
this annotation will result in a permission denied message. On releases
where this annotation is supported setting a value of “true” will
enable CONDSTORE functionality1.
* expire – If an expire value is provided messages will be
automatically deleted from the mailbox once the specified number of
days has elapsed.
* news2mail - 
* sharedseen - Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages

rather than a per-user \Seen flag. The 's' right in the mailbox ACL
still controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
* sieve – In the case of a shared folder the “sieve” parameter
specifies the name of a global SIEVE script that will be used for every
message delivered to the folder.  This value is ignored for personal
mailboxes (mailboxes including and subordinate to a user's INBOX).
* squat – Flags the mailbox to be included for indexing when the SQUAT
process performs index generation.


> But is it possible to expunge a message immediately when it's deleted
> by client and not with the next expire run?

Not if delayed expunge is enabled AFAIK; that would defeat the purpose.


I set "mboxcfg user.test expire 1" on a test mailbox, but it has no
effect on nightly delprune set in cyrus.conf EVENT: 


 delprune cmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501"

Messages deleted two days ago are still in the file system.

localhost> info user.test
{user.test}:
 duplicatedeliver: false
 expire: 1
 lastpop:
 lastupdate:  4-Nov-2015 17:14:20 +0100
 partition: default
 pop3newuidl: true
 sharedseen: false
 size: 0


The expire annotation causes Cyrus to delete messages older than  
days.  If you have delayed_expunge enabled, the messages still remain on 
the filesystem until you purge them using cyr_expire.


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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Adam Tauno Williams via Info-cyrus]

globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > > > delprunecmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7"
> > > > at=0501
> > > > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7
> > > > days,
> > > > but
> > > > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> > > Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to
> > > delayed.
> > > Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:
> > You can set an expire annotation per mailbox.  
> How do I do that? From cyr_expire manpage:
> "The value of the /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation is
> inherited by all children of the given mailbox, so an entire mailbox
> tree can be expired by seting a single annotation on the root of that
> tree. If a mailbox does not have a /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire
> annotation set on it (or does not inherit one), then no messages are
> expired from the mailbox."

Via cyradm -

cyrus.example.com> mboxcfg user.adam expire 365 
cyrus.example.com> info user.adam 
{user.adam}: 
  condstore: false 
  duplicatedeliver: false 
  expire: 365 
  lastpop:  
  lastupdate: 13-Aug-2008 19:37:31 -0400 
  partition: default 
  sharedseen: false 
  size: 12325671

AFAIK the annotations supported by cyradm/mboxcfg are:

* comment – A free-form text comment or description to be attached to
the mailbox.
* condstore – This annotation is only supported in the 2.3.x release
series starting with 2.3.3 although its use is not recommended until
2.3.8. As of the 2.4.x release series CONDSTORE functionality is
enabled on all mailboxes regardless of annotation and attempting to set
this annotation will result in a permission denied message. On releases
where this annotation is supported setting a value of “true” will
enable CONDSTORE functionality1.
* expire – If an expire value is provided messages will be
automatically deleted from the mailbox once the specified number of
days has elapsed.
* news2mail - 
* sharedseen - Enables the use of a shared \Seen flag on messages
rather than a per-user \Seen flag. The 's' right in the mailbox ACL
still controls whether a user can set the shared \Seen flag.
* sieve – In the case of a shared folder the “sieve” parameter
specifies the name of a global SIEVE script that will be used for every
message delivered to the folder.  This value is ignored for personal
mailboxes (mailboxes including and subordinate to a user's INBOX).
* squat – Flags the mailbox to be included for indexing when the SQUAT
process performs index generation.


> But is it possible to expunge a message immediately when it's deleted
> by client and not with the next expire run?

Not if delayed expunge is enabled AFAIK; that would defeat the purpose.

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OpenGroupware Developer 



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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus]

Am Dienstag, den 03.11.2015, 08:24 +0100 schrieb Marcus Schopen via
Info-cyrus:
> Hi,
> 
> Am Montag, den 02.11.2015, 10:58 -0500 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams via
> Info-cyrus:
> > On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 14:40 +0100, Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2015, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Marcus Schopen via
> > > Info-cyrus:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > > > delprunecmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501
> > > > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7 days,
> > > > but
> > > > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> > > Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to delayed.
> > > Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:
> > 
> > You can set an expire annotation per mailbox.  
> 
> How do I do that? From cyr_expire manpage:
> 
> "The value of the /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation is inherited
> by all children of the given mailbox, so an entire mailbox tree can be
> expired by seting a single annotation on the root of that tree. If a
> mailbox does not have a /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation set on
> it (or does not inherit one), then no messages are expired from the
> mailbox."
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> setannotation "user.myuser"
> "/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire" ("value.shared" "0")
> 
> But is it possible to expunge a message immediately when it's deleted by
> client and not with the next expire run?

Sorry, but could someon explain how and where to set annotation?
cyradmin seems not to be the right tool.

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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Adam Tauno Williams via Info-cyrus]

On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 14:40 +0100, Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2015, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Marcus Schopen via
> Info-cyrus:
> > Hi,
> > globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > delprunecmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501
> > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7 days,
> > but
> > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to delayed.
> Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:

You can set an expire annotation per mailbox.  Downside is that I
believe the annotation will be 'inherited' but subordinate mailboxes;
which stinks for some use-cases.


> su - cyrus -c "/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 0 -D 0 -v -p
> user.mailboxname"

FYI, I believe with the very latest Cyrus the "su -" is unnecessary as
it will automatically handle the context change when run as root.


-- 
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Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA



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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus]

Hi,

Am Montag, den 02.11.2015, 10:58 -0500 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams via
Info-cyrus:
> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 14:40 +0100, Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2015, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Marcus Schopen via
> > Info-cyrus:
> > > Hi,
> > > globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> > > delprune  cmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501
> > > For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7 days,
> > > but
> > > expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?
> > Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to delayed.
> > Via cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:
> 
> You can set an expire annotation per mailbox.  

How do I do that? From cyr_expire manpage:

"The value of the /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation is inherited
by all children of the given mailbox, so an entire mailbox tree can be
expired by seting a single annotation on the root of that tree. If a
mailbox does not have a /vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire annotation set on
it (or does not inherit one), then no messages are expired from the
mailbox."

Is this correct?

setannotation "user.myuser"
"/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire" ("value.shared" "0")

But is it possible to expunge a message immediately when it's deleted by
client and not with the next expire run?


> Downside is that I
> believe the annotation will be 'inherited' but subordinate mailboxes;
> which stinks for some use-cases.
> 
> 
> > su - cyrus -c "/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 0 -D 0 -v -p
> > user.mailboxname"
> 
> FYI, I believe with the very latest Cyrus the "su -" is unnecessary as
> it will automatically handle the context change when run as root.

Ciao!



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delprune on a single mailbox

[Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus]

Hi,

globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to

delprunecmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501

For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7 days, but
expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?

Ciao!






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Re: delprune on a single mailbox

[Marcus Schopen via Info-cyrus]

Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2015, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Marcus Schopen via
Info-cyrus:
> Hi,
> 
> globally in cyrus.conf delprune is set to
> 
> delprune  cmd="/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 7 -D 7" at=0501
> 
> For a single mailbox I don't want to keep deleted mails for 7 days, but
> expire them immediately or once a day per cron. How to do that?


Forogt to say that delete_mode and expunge_mode is set to delayed. Via
cron this should work for an immediate cleanup/expire:

su - cyrus -c "/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 0 -D 0 -v -p
user.mailboxname"

su - cyrus -c "/usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 0 -D 0 -v -p
DELETED.user.mailboxname" 

Is it possible to set it by ACL on a single mailbox?

Ciao!




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