Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Joe Touch
FWIW... On 1/16/2019 11:26 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > ...A stateless firewall could just drop the first fragment that > contains the transport layer header and allow non first fragments to > past. This achieves the filtering goal to prevent delivery of the > reassmbled packet. That works only if

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05

2019-01-16 Thread Joe Touch
Tom, On 1/14/2019 2:04 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: > Hello. I have a couple of comments: > > >From the draft: > "Middle boxes SHOULD process IP fragments in a manner that is > compliant with RFC 791 and RFC 8200. In many cases, middle boxes must > maintain state in order to achieve this goal." > >

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Ron Bonica
Tom, We seem to be talking past one another. Would you objection be satisfied if I deleted the sentence? Ron > -Original Message- > From: Tom Herbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:03 PM > To: Ron Bonica > Cc: int-area > Subject:

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Herbert
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:40 AM Ron Bonica wrote: > > Inline….. > > > > From: Tom Herbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:27 PM > To: Ron Bonica > Cc: int-area > Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom > Herbert) > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 6:17 PM

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Ron Bonica
Inline….. From: Tom Herbert Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:27 PM To: Ron Bonica Cc: int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert) On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 6:17 PM Ron Bonica mailto:rbon...@juniper.net> wrote: Tom, Please take a look at Section

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 6:17 PM Ron Bonica Tom, > > Please take a look at Section 4.3 (Stateless Firewalls). How can the > stateless firewall behave optimally without maintaining state? > Ron, A stateless firewall that maintains state is no longer a stateless firewall. Introducing state requires