Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-14 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
*Objet :* Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis Hi Med, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: ** Hi Behcet, I have two comments: * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing mechanism. I am not sure

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-14 Thread Dan Wing
: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal- analysis Hi Med, I realize that you published a revision with the A+P reference. However, I believe A+P is a problem for address sharing with its own solution, i.e. the port range is the host id. Except a remote server does not know

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Haberman
22:12 À : int-area@ietf.org; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org Objet : [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis All, I have completed my AD evaluation for the above draft and have some feedback for the group. I will focus on the substantive comments

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Haberman
On 2/13/13 1:16 AM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi Brian, On 02/11/2013 07:44 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: Hi Suresh, On 2/11/13 7:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
de Brian Haberman Envoyé : lundi 11 février 2013 22:12 À : int-area@ietf.org; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org Objet : [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis All, I have completed my AD evaluation for the above draft and have some feedback

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Suresh, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Suresh Krishnan suresh.krish...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Behcet, On 02/12/2013 05:57 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: Hi Suresh, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan suresh.krish...@ericsson.com mailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Haberman; draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis Hi Suresh, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Suresh Krishnan suresh.krish...@ericsson.commailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Haberman
On 2/13/13 11:12 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: I would suggest re-ordering the table so that deployed approaches are collected together (and labeling them as deployed). If the HTTP Forwarded header is the only deployed approach, I would simply add a note for the others stating

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Med, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: ** Hi Behcet, I have two comments: * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing mechanism. I am not sure on A+P? A+P requires point-to-point link, right? This is why the introduction mentions

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis Hi Med, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.commailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Hi Behcet, I have two comments: * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis Hi Med, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: ** Hi Behcet, I have two comments: * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing mechanism. I am not sure on A+P? [Med] both A+P and NAT-based

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Joe Touch
On 2/11/2013 4:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: 7. In Section 4.1.2, it would be good to describe any issues that

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
-analy...@tools.ietf.org Objet : [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis All, I have completed my AD evaluation for the above draft and have some feedback for the group. I will focus on the substantive comments for the time being since some of them may result in re

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Suresh, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan suresh.krish...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: 7. In

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Brian, On 02/11/2013 07:44 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: Hi Suresh, On 2/11/13 7:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Behcet, On 02/12/2013 05:57 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: Hi Suresh, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan suresh.krish...@ericsson.com mailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis * Shouldn't there be an additional metric that covers the impact/cost of needing client or middlebox code changes? * Where did the 100% success ratio for IP-ID come from? There have been documented cases of OSes setting

[Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Haberman
All, I have completed my AD evaluation for the above draft and have some feedback for the group. I will focus on the substantive comments for the time being since some of them may result in re-written text in places. I will follow up with the document authors on editorial nits and such

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-11 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: 7. In Section 4.1.2, it would be good to describe any issues that the approach has with the original use of the

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi Suresh, On 2/11/13 7:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: 7. In Section 4.1.2, it would be good to describe any