Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-17 Thread Fernando Gont
On 16/1/19 16:26, Tom Herbert wrote: > Ron, > > A stateless firewall that maintains state is no longer a stateless > firewall. Introducing state requires memory and additional logic that > are at odds with the goal of cheap low end devices.. > > A stateless firewall could just drop the first

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Joe Touch
FWIW... On 1/16/2019 11:26 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > ...A stateless firewall could just drop the first fragment that > contains the transport layer header and allow non first fragments to > past. This achieves the filtering goal to prevent delivery of the > reassmbled packet. That works only if

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Ron Bonica
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom > Herbert) > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:40 AM Ron Bonica wrote: > > > > Inline….. > > > > > > > > From: Tom Herbert > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:27 PM &

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Herbert
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:40 AM Ron Bonica wrote: > > Inline….. > > > > From: Tom Herbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:27 PM > To: Ron Bonica > Cc: int-area > Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom > Herbert) > >

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Ron Bonica
Inline….. From: Tom Herbert Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:27 PM To: Ron Bonica Cc: int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert) On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 6:17 PM Ron Bonica mailto:rbon...@juniper.net> wrote: Tom, Please take a look at Sect

Re: [Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05 (Tom Herbert)

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 6:17 PM Ron Bonica Tom, > > Please take a look at Section 4.3 (Stateless Firewalls). How can the > stateless firewall behave optimally without maintaining state? > Ron, A stateless firewall that maintains state is no longer a stateless firewall. Introducing state requires