[Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread David Meyer
Folks, The IESG would like to know whether people believe that we can go directly to our first LISP WG meeting at the next IETF, or if another WG forming BOF is necessary. Here are the current facts on the ground: o We have fairly mature set of

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Dave, Can you give a little more background on these two points, for those who aren't following things that closely: o Significant global deployment is underway o We have 2 (or more) implementations What's the nature of the deployment, and am I correct in thinking that only one of

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread David Meyer
Brian, Can you give a little more background on these two points, for those who aren't following things that closely: o Significant global deployment is underway Check http://www.lisp4.net (IPv4) or http://www.lisp6.net (IPv6). There's a schematic of the global

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Soininen, Jonne (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi, I am sorry if I'm a bit lost here. Perhaps I just haven't paid enough attention. Did the RRG conclude and decide to take LISP or is this a parallel activity? If this is a parallel activity what is the intended connection to the RRG work? Sorry for the perhaps simple questions and thanks

[Int-area] IETF-74 BOF requests

2009-01-20 Thread Jari Arkko
BOF requests for the upcoming meeting are listed in http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart I would like to ask for a couple of things. First, are we missing something? If yes, its about time you send the ADs mail... Second, take a look at the proposals and provide feedback either

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Jari Arkko
I have a few personal comments on the charter. In the first BOF we had an experiment aspect in the charter as well. The new charter is pure protocol specification. I am actually interested in two outputs from the potential WG: First, the protocol specifications themselves will be useful for

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Joe Touch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Meyer wrote: ... It would likely be possible to develop a list of questions (such as the one you mention), but experimental design should not, IMO, be a part of this WG. It is not only that the scope of potentially

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2009-01-21 13:57, Joe Touch wrote: ... If the purpose of the WG is experiments, then this work clearly belongs back on the IRTF, which is not the goal AFAICT (I bring this up only to reinforce David's view that experiments are out of scope). I'm guessing that Jari's comment is because of

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Jari, But back to the proposal. In particular, I would like to know how people feel about this work being ready for an (Experimental) IETF WG, what the scope should be, whether the charter is reasonable. And if not, what would make it so. There are reasonably stable specs that people can