Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > I do not think classic Internet tunnels (e.g. IP in IP or GRE) are a good > comparison for ILA. The ILA mapping requires dynamic knowledge about the > remote end. (One of the things that is important about ILA is

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-06.txt

2017-05-17 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, all, A new version of intarea-tunnels has been posted, as noted below. At this point, I would like to ask the chairs to start a WG call to consider revising the document track, as per below. _*Some history:*_ This document began as a set of discussions at IETF 72 in Philadelphia (2008),

[Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-06.txt

2017-05-17 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture Authors : Joe Touch Mark Townsley

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-05.txt

2017-05-17 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Fred (et al.), On 3/29/2017 3:06 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > One other comment. I agree with figures 12 and 13 but (and I think this is > a crucial point) I think they need a supporting sentence or two explaining > why the procedure is "fragment then encapsulate" and not "encapsulate > then

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-05.txt

2017-05-17 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Fred, Circling back to this item: On 3/29/2017 2:18 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > One other comment. I agree with figures 12 and 13 but (and I think this is > a crucial point) I think they need a supporting sentence or two explaining > why the procedure is "fragment then encapsulate" and not

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 14/05/2017 05:42, Tom Herbert wrote: >> Hello, >> >> At the Chicago WG meeting I made a request that ILA be taken up as a >> WG item in int-area. The WG chairs and AD requested that we raise a >>

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Joel M. Halpern
I do not think classic Internet tunnels (e.g. IP in IP or GRE) are a good comparison for ILA. The ILA mapping requires dynamic knowledge about the remote end. (One of the things that is important about ILA is its ability to hide dynamics.) GUE at least is proposed specifically for use in

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Joel M. Halpern > wrote: > > If we want the documents to be informational, then it should be about a > > context where we understand how to build the surrounding