Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-02-02 Thread Scott Brim
Excerpts from Jon Crowcroft on Sun, Feb 01, 2009 09:30:55AM +: you can push info multiply redundently (or cross-post:) and you get reliability with a silly overhead or you can push an update which is wrong and disconnect the entire world, e.g.

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-02-01 Thread Dino Farinacci
Dino - I think we should experimentally compare ALT with other mapping systems before we decide whether pull-based or push-based mapping systems are better. Dismissing push-based mapping systems without corroborating data would be a bit premature in my opinion. Agree. In the absence of

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Vogt
On Jan 28, 2009, Dino Farinacci wrote: You cannot push around 10^10 entries and store them everywhere. [...] Dino - I think we should experimentally compare ALT with other mapping systems before we decide whether pull-based or push-based mapping systems are better. Dismissing push-based

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread Schliesser, Benson
Jari Arkko: In particular, I would like to know how people feel about this work being ready for an (Experimental) IETF WG, what the scope should be, whether the charter is reasonable. And if not, what would make it so. +1 for an Experimental IETF WG scoped to develop an RFC series on

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread byzek
On 1/20/09 7:59 PM, Schliesser, Benson bens...@savvis.net wrote: Jari Arkko: In particular, I would like to know how people feel about this work being ready for an (Experimental) IETF WG, what the scope should be, whether the charter is reasonable. And if not, what would make it so.

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread John Zwiebel
On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Schliesser, Benson wrote: The most recent charter proposed by Dave Meyer looks good to me. aye___ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi Ross, It seems to me that you and Dimitri are talking about things that the RRG should be doing as it moves towards conclusions. I don't see why they would be in scope for an IETF LISP WG, where we would ask for a tight and achievable focus. Obviously there's a risk in chartering a LISP WG

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Jari, But back to the proposal. In particular, I would like to know how people feel about this work being ready for an (Experimental) IETF WG, what the scope should be, whether the charter is reasonable. And if not, what would make it so. There are reasonably stable specs that people can