Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-27 Thread Petri Latvala
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 01:07:25PM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> Am I understanding correctly that gem folks don't object to
> gem_storedw_loop being removed from BAT?

Interpreting silence as a yes.

Acked-by: Petri Latvala 

Please push this.



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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-25 Thread Petri Latvala
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 03:18:00PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 20/10/2016 15:02, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 02:55:42PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > On 20/10/2016 10:16, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > > > > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> > > > > > > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > "quick" set.
> > > > > > How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > removed altogether?
> > > > > The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
> > > > > BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
> > > > > (edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is 
> > > > > still
> > > > > unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as 
> > > > > BAT
> > > > > goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
> > > > > within BAT is very very small.
> > > > But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
> > > > sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
> > > > minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
> > > > of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.
> > > > 
> > > > Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?
> > > I am very fond of gem_storedw_loop, it was indispensable during
> > > platform bringup in Fulsim in a not so distant past.
> > > 
> > > Even if not so, it is a very short and simple test ("Basic CS check
> > > using MI_STORE_DATA_IMM"), while gem_sync is much more complex and
> > > deals with a different issues.
> > See gem_exec_store for an even shorter sanity test of CS (also in BAT).
> > We have overlap between this, gem_exec_basic, gem_exec_store,
> > gem_exec_nop, gem_ringfill and gem_sync.
> > 
> > > Without going into wider discussion, I vote to keep this particular test.
> > In BAT?
> 
> No sorry I read some later bits of the thread and came back to reply here -
> I was referring just to the igt codebase.


Am I understanding correctly that gem folks don't object to
gem_storedw_loop being removed from BAT?


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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin


On 20/10/2016 15:02, Chris Wilson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 02:55:42PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:

On 20/10/2016 10:16, Daniel Vetter wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:

The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
"quick" set.

How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
removed altogether?

The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
(edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
within BAT is very very small.

But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.

Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?

I am very fond of gem_storedw_loop, it was indispensable during
platform bringup in Fulsim in a not so distant past.

Even if not so, it is a very short and simple test ("Basic CS check
using MI_STORE_DATA_IMM"), while gem_sync is much more complex and
deals with a different issues.

See gem_exec_store for an even shorter sanity test of CS (also in BAT).
We have overlap between this, gem_exec_basic, gem_exec_store,
gem_exec_nop, gem_ringfill and gem_sync.


Without going into wider discussion, I vote to keep this particular test.

In BAT?


No sorry I read some later bits of the thread and came back to reply 
here - I was referring just to the igt codebase.


Regards,

Tvrtko



-Chris



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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Chris Wilson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 02:55:42PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 20/10/2016 10:16, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> >>On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
> "quick" set.
> >>>
> >>>How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
> >>>removed altogether?
> >>The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
> >>BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
> >>(edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
> >>unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
> >>goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
> >>within BAT is very very small.
> >But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
> >sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
> >minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
> >of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.
> >
> >Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?
> 
> I am very fond of gem_storedw_loop, it was indispensable during
> platform bringup in Fulsim in a not so distant past.
> 
> Even if not so, it is a very short and simple test ("Basic CS check
> using MI_STORE_DATA_IMM"), while gem_sync is much more complex and
> deals with a different issues.

See gem_exec_store for an even shorter sanity test of CS (also in BAT).
We have overlap between this, gem_exec_basic, gem_exec_store,
gem_exec_nop, gem_ringfill and gem_sync.

> Without going into wider discussion, I vote to keep this particular test.

In BAT?
-Chris

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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin


On 20/10/2016 10:16, Daniel Vetter wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:

The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
"quick" set.


How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
removed altogether?

The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
(edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
within BAT is very very small.

But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.

Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?


I am very fond of gem_storedw_loop, it was indispensable during platform 
bringup in Fulsim in a not so distant past.


Even if not so, it is a very short and simple test ("Basic CS check 
using MI_STORE_DATA_IMM"), while gem_sync is much more complex and deals 
with a different issues.


Without going into wider discussion, I vote to keep this particular test.

Regards,

Tvrtko

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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Mika Kuoppala
 wrote:
> Daniel Vetter  writes:
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>> > > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
>>> > > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
>>> > > "quick" set.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
>>> > removed altogether?
>>>
>>> The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
>>> BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
>>> (edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
>>> unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
>>> goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
>>> within BAT is very very small.
>>
>> But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
>> sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
>> minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
>> of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.
>>
>> Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?
>
> No strong stances. But I really dont see the problem here from
> gem dev point of view. Only the maintenance burden of keeping
> latent/inactive testcases?
>
> Having more than we can possible run is a positive problem.
> We can pick more berries to basket instead of planting bushes.
>
> I throw this back by asking what is 'full igt'?

Atm we run about 0.1% of igt in CI. I think that's a problem, because
it means lots of testcases get written, but not used.

The other issue is that by not running testcases on a big set of
machines we don't catch the small bugs and races in the tests itself
(and there's plenty of those too). Which means they are of less
quality, and hence also not that useful for QA (as in quality
reporting). Which further reduces the value we can gain from having
these testcases.

The last one is a chicken-egg problem: Because no one runs this stuff,
it doesn't get better, and that's the reason it doesn't get run in CI,
which means no one runs it. Imo the only way to get out of that cycle
is by applying a _lot_ of survival pressure on testcases, to weed out
the stuff which is not providing a benefit. So yes I do believe we
have too many testcases, and it's costing us, because it's essentially
dead code.

So phrased another way: Why do we want to keep dead code in igt, but
are happy to rip out disabled-by-default features in the kernel? Why
is igt special and it's ok to treat it as a dumping ground and not
clean out deadwood?

I know that the shoddy shape of CI is part of the problem here, but
like I said above, igt is imo also part of the problem, and there's a
reinforcing cycle.
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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Mika Kuoppala
Daniel Vetter  writes:

> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
>> > > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
>> > > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
>> > > "quick" set.
>> >
>> >
>> > How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
>> > removed altogether?
>>
>> The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
>> BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
>> (edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
>> unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
>> goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
>> within BAT is very very small.
>
> But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
> sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
> minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
> of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.
>
> Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?

No strong stances. But I really dont see the problem here from
gem dev point of view. Only the maintenance burden of keeping
latent/inactive testcases?

Having more than we can possible run is a positive problem.
We can pick more berries to basket instead of planting bushes.

I throw this back by asking what is 'full igt'?

-Mika

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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Chris Wilson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:16:16AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> > > > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
> > > > "quick" set.
> > >
> > >
> > > How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
> > > removed altogether?
> >
> > The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
> > BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
> > (edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
> > unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
> > goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
> > within BAT is very very small.
> 
> But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
> sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
> minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
> of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.

50k? I've 500k in gem_concurrent_all alone that I wish to be run...

Wishlist: fuzz testing of both the driver and gpu simultaneously.
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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 09:54:33AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> > > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
> > > "quick" set.
> >
> >
> > How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
> > removed altogether?
>
> The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
> BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
> (edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
> unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
> goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
> within BAT is very very small.

But given that we have 50k gem tests in full igt, does it really make
sense to keep it? Imo there's not much point in keeping around every
minute combinatorial variation if it means we can never run the full set
of testcases. Some serious trimming of the herd is probably called for.

Joonas/Tvrtko/Mika and other gem folks: What's your stance here?
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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Chris Wilson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:45:47AM +0300, Petri Latvala wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> > equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
> > "quick" set.
> 
> 
> How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
> removed altogether?

The stress patterns exhibited by the test are identical to others in
BAT. The accuracy tests are covered by others in BAT. The actual flow
(edge coverage) will be subtly different and therefore the test is still
unique and may catch future bugs not caught by others. But as far as BAT
goes the likelihood of this catching something not caught by others
within BAT is very very small.
-Chris

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Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-20 Thread Petri Latvala
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:26:17PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
> equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
> "quick" set.


How equally is "equally"? Is the test actually redundant, should it be
removed altogether?


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> 
> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson 
> ---
>  tests/gem_storedw_loop.c  | 6 +++---
>  tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist | 7 ---
>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c b/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
> index 317b8c6..4f05b21 100644
> --- a/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
> +++ b/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
> @@ -185,14 +185,14 @@ igt_main
>   }
>  
>   for (e = intel_execution_engines; e->name; e++) {
> - igt_subtest_f("basic-%s", e->name) {
> + igt_subtest_f("short-%s", e->name) {
>   check_test_requirements(fd, e->exec_id);
> - store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 16*1024);
> + store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 4*1024);
>   }
>  
>   igt_subtest_f("long-%s", e->name) {
>   check_test_requirements(fd, e->exec_id);
> - store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 1024*1024);
> + store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 4*1024*1024);
>   }
>   }
>  
> diff --git a/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist 
> b/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
> index 853b911..b8fce59 100644
> --- a/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
> +++ b/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
> @@ -111,13 +111,6 @@ igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default
>  igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-forked
>  igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-hang
>  igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-interruptible
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-blt
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd1
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd2
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-default
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-render
> -igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-vebox
>  igt@gem_sync@basic-all
>  igt@gem_sync@basic-each
>  igt@gem_sync@basic-many-each
> -- 
> 2.9.3
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[Intel-gfx] [PATCH igt] igt: drop gem_storedw_loop from BAT

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Wilson
The inter-engine synchronisation (with and without semaphores) is
equally exercised by gem_sync, so leave gem_storedw_loop out of the
"quick" set.

Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson 
---
 tests/gem_storedw_loop.c  | 6 +++---
 tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist | 7 ---
 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)

diff --git a/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c b/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
index 317b8c6..4f05b21 100644
--- a/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
+++ b/tests/gem_storedw_loop.c
@@ -185,14 +185,14 @@ igt_main
}
 
for (e = intel_execution_engines; e->name; e++) {
-   igt_subtest_f("basic-%s", e->name) {
+   igt_subtest_f("short-%s", e->name) {
check_test_requirements(fd, e->exec_id);
-   store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 16*1024);
+   store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 4*1024);
}
 
igt_subtest_f("long-%s", e->name) {
check_test_requirements(fd, e->exec_id);
-   store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 1024*1024);
+   store_test(fd, e->exec_id | e->flags, 4*1024*1024);
}
}
 
diff --git a/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist 
b/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
index 853b911..b8fce59 100644
--- a/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
+++ b/tests/intel-ci/fast-feedback.testlist
@@ -111,13 +111,6 @@ igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default
 igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-forked
 igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-hang
 igt@gem_ringfill@basic-default-interruptible
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-blt
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd1
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-bsd2
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-default
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-render
-igt@gem_storedw_loop@basic-vebox
 igt@gem_sync@basic-all
 igt@gem_sync@basic-each
 igt@gem_sync@basic-many-each
-- 
2.9.3

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