Re: [Keelynet] differences of potential, vortexes and gravity

[Stuart Rae]

Hi Joseph et al !


Joseph Hiddink wrote:


Giving something away for free is never
appreciated as I found out the hard way.
 


I agree with you absolutely.


Do not give a fish, give a fishing rod and let
them catch a fish themselves is the better way.
 


And thank you for a loan of YOUR fishing rod Joseph.
With it I have since made a couple of variations of your single plate 
capacitor.  



The last one was about nine inches in diameter, and in addition, it was 
carefully coated with several layers of clear gloss insulating  varnish. 
I supported it from the inside on a plastic rod insulator, and mounted a 
specially designed external element, for the collection and transfer of 
free atmospheric electrons.  



It had only been charged up for a minute or two when, much to my 
surprise, there was a loud 'crack', and in the corner of my eye I saw an 
electric spark leap out of nowhere, onto the collection element.  The 
spark was about three eighths to half an inch long .  It made such a 
noise that my wife clearly heard it in an adjacent room and wondered 
what I'd blown up this time . :-)



I have since had to put it aside temporarily.  (1) to give its practical 
applications some more thought, and (2) to finish a new variation of a 
motionless electric generator that I'm making for a close friend.  It 
uses resonant toggled fields rather than the switched magnetic fields of 
a conventional MEG. 



So once again, thank you for the fishing rod Joseph. When I've got it 
all under control, and it's heating the element in my hot water 
cylinder, I'll let you know.



Regards,


S. R.

There is nothing as deceptive as an obvious fact,
Sherlock Holmes .

Re: [Keelynet] differences of potential, vortexes and gravity

[Joseph Hiddink]

Hello Stuart,
Be extremely careful, you could easily zap by
mistake your computer, HiFi and TV and those of
your neighbors, like I did with my initial
experiment. You also could zap yourself, if you
are in a close position. Best to activate any
switches with long plastic rods, rather than
depending on something that by itself starts a
resonant signal that you cannot turn off in time.
A pulse like this can also zap your electronic
watch and cell-phone.
--- Stuart Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Joseph et al !
 
 Joseph Hiddink wrote:
 Giving something away for free is never
 appreciated as I found out the hard way.

 I agree with you absolutely.
 
 Do not give a fish, give a fishing rod and let
 them catch a fish themselves is the better
 way.
   
 And thank you for a loan of YOUR fishing rod
 Joseph.
 With it I have since made a couple of
 variations of your single plate 
 capacitor.  
 
 The last one was about nine inches in diameter,
 and in addition, it was 
 carefully coated with several layers of clear
 gloss insulating  varnish. 
 I supported it from the inside on a plastic rod
 insulator, and mounted a 
 specially designed external element, for the
 collection and transfer of 
 free atmospheric electrons.  
 
 It had only been charged up for a minute or two
 when, much to my 
 surprise, there was a loud 'crack', and in the
 corner of my eye I saw an 
 electric spark leap out of nowhere, onto the
 collection element.  The 
 spark was about three eighths to half an inch
 long .  It made such a 
 noise that my wife clearly heard it in an
 adjacent room and wondered 
 what I'd blown up this time . :-)
 
 I have since had to put it aside temporarily. 
 (1) to give its practical 
 applications some more thought, and (2) to
 finish a new variation of a 
 motionless electric generator that I'm making
 for a close friend.  It 
 uses resonant toggled fields rather than the
 switched magnetic fields of 
 a conventional MEG. 
 
 So once again, thank you for the fishing rod
 Joseph. When I've got it 
 all under control, and it's heating the element
 in my hot water 
 cylinder, I'll let you know.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 S. R.


 There is nothing as deceptive as an obvious
 fact,
  Sherlock Holmes .
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [Keelynet] differences of potential, vortexes and gravity

[Mitch]

, to power 
the next cycle. Simple, Huh? Anyway, there is a new idea to play 
with.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Audun Hassel 
  To: Interact 
  Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Keelynet] differences of 
  potential, vortexes and gravity
  Hello, the theories discussed 
  lately has some similarities with perpetual motion and creating free energy, 
  Its great fun and interesting to try to break the energy laws but no one has 
  succeeded so far. The more complex you build your free energy machine the 
  harder it is to find the error, and in your head you start to believe that 
  this thing simply must work, been there done that. To try to tap into gravity 
  by buoyancy Its probably another area where the energy laws still holds water. 
  Nothing can be created from nothing, and energy is everything so I guess we 
  have to use something to make some energy, which is the same as transferring 
  energy to a different state. So what shall we transform to usable energy?, 
  fossil fuels is a bad solution, tapping gravity and gravity fields I don’t 
  understand a bit of, it may be too advanced for me, but I have seen nothing 
  who is close to working. The solution is probably to tap into renewable energy 
  sources, mostly energy from the sun who creates light, wind, wave, biomass, 
  water with potential energy, heat etc. or the process of the sun itself 
  fusion. Anyway got inspired by the 
  discussion and the simpel wheel in a water tank, well that thing does not 
  work, but why don’t it work, and what can you do to make it work? I used my 
  favourite subjects temperature differences, faze changes and turbines and made 
  this concept, a wheel who works the opposite way of a heat pump, and yes its 
  gravity and buoyancy involved.  Simpler than this I couldn’t draw it, and it just show the principe. 
  It’s like a big bicycle wheel standing up, half in cold water and the other 
  half in warm water. The hose contains a refrigerant which evaporates when 
  heated and condenses when cooled, its chambers in the hose so the refrigerant 
  can’t move along the wheel. When the liquid evaporates in the warm water it 
  creates more volume and more buoyancy, when it cools down and condenses in the 
  cold water it creates less volume and less buoyancy. This will make the wheel 
  spinn and you can tap it with an electric generator. This process will heat 
  the cold water and cool down the warm water and is like I said the opposite of 
  a heat pump. To keep the temperature difference you have to fill up with more 
  cold and hot water. In this system you got very little energy loss, only some 
  small loss from friction. A wild guess is an efficiency of 75% including the 
  generator. Then you only have to get cold and hot water, like cold seawater 
  and a warm river. Warm water can you also get from solar heaters, burning 
  biofuel or garbage, used cooling water and spare heat from nuclear plants, 
  industry, buildings etc. It may also be used to increase efficiency in fossil 
  fuel power plants and opens up for generation of electricity from warm water 
  under the boiling point. Hey I just figured, if you turn it with an engine the 
  opposite way you have a heat pump! Wonder what the efficiency is? Wow this 
  opens up for using it as flexible heat storage.technology is 
  wonderfull! Well I appreciate if 
  anyone has a comment, does this work, does it make sense? If it works I have some nice ideas about how to build a 
  machine and get up the speed, I do 3D all the way to manufacturing, need help 
  on the calculations and the rest ,helpers, business developers and people with 
  fat valets can just send me a mail;) Pardon my English, Audun Hassel, Trondheim, Norway 
  
  


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I love these theories! I can always picture them working. 
  However, a balanced wooden wheel that was half submerged in calm 
  water would push upwards upon both sides of the axle shaft equally, thus 
  voiding lift. The thought of nullified weight immersed in the water 
  and a top-heavy wheel would be subject to the same effect. All top 
  weight in a balanced wheel would press downwards equally, again voiding 
  spin. However, the act of spinning, in and of itself, seems key to 
  solving over-unity and/or anti-grav. Spinnin