Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-17 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
I do not care about binaries, which I used to build myself anyway. They are built once. But I do not want to lose 2010 support. When your code is dependent on different languages and 3rd party products you tend to stay on the old compilers for long time. Often you have to skip versions cause

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Philipp Kursawe
The OpenGL dependency should be dropped altogether for the QtGUI dll, imho. Just use the platforms own rendering engine to do all the rendering. On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Yves Bailly yves.bai...@sescoi.fr wrote: Le 13/12/2013 08:50, Michael Sué a écrit : I think support for VS 2010

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Harish Surana
What do you mean? We use VS 2012 on Win 7 to target Windows XP. It was earlier not supported in RC release but added it in VS 2012 update 1. More information can be found here http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/11/26/visual-studio-2012-update-1-now-available.aspx On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Harish Surana
We were using VS 2005 until last year for a very large solution. Now we moved to VS 2012. Most probably company will not upgrade VS for the next 5-6 years. Microsoft is releasing too fast. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quinta-feira, 12

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Michael Sué
Hi, What do you mean? We use VS 2012 on Win 7 to target Windows XP. It was earlier not supported in RC release but added it in VS 2012 update 1. More information can be found here http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/11/26/visual-studio-2012-update-1-now-available.aspx With native

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Harish Surana
If you want to take advantage of newer hardware, OS, compilers to improve development you will need to move at some point of time and should be before support ends from them :). On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Michael Sué s...@nf.mpg.de wrote: Hi, What do you mean? We use VS 2012 on Win 7

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-13 Thread Michael Sué
Hi, If you want to take advantage of newer hardware, OS, compilers to improve development you will need to move at some point of time and should be before support ends from them :). I completely agree :-) But on the other side there are the users of software (e.g. our software) who want to

[Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Felix morack
I think a lot of us windows guys want to move over to VS2013 (optimization bugs in VS2012 and all). Unfortunately, VS2013 wasnt released in time to have full support in Qt 5.2. VS2013 has been around for a while now, and code to update the VSAddon to support VS2013 has been reviewed, approved and

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2013 21:17:56, Felix morack wrote: I think a lot of us windows guys want to move over to VS2013 (optimization bugs in VS2012 and all). Unfortunately, VS2013 wasnt released in time to have full support in Qt 5.2. VS2013 has been around for a while now, and

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: Would people feel bad if we no longer provided binaries for VS 2010? Many people are still on VS2010 (in fact, I know a not-negligible amount of companies still on VS 2008) Microsoft is releasing too fast for

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Felix morack
Why would you need to drop something else? But yes, i think moving forward is more important than keeping VS2010 support. So what are the current plans? 2013/12/12 Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com On quinta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2013 21:17:56, Felix morack wrote: I think a lot

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Felix morack
Would people feel bad if we no longer provided binaries for VS 2010? Many people are still on VS2010 (in fact, I know a not-negligible amount of companies still on VS 2008) Microsoft is releasing too fast for the mid to large corporation. Very true. In fact, i work for one such

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Charley Bay
Would people feel bad if we no longer provided binaries for VS 2010? Many people are still on VS2010 (in fact, I know a not-negligible amount of companies still on VS 2008) Microsoft is releasing too fast for the mid to large corporation. Felix spaketh: Very true. In fact, i work for one

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Charley Bay charleyb...@gmail.com wrote: MSVC2013 is an exception because IMHO, MSVC2010 and MSVC2012 had serious deficiencies (we won't use them). Careful with that: LLVM is sticking to MSVC2010 for now because they found some serious issues in 2012 and

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2013 22:22:56, Felix morack wrote: Why would you need to drop something else? Because we don't have enough manpower to test all the packages that people ask for. Let me put it this way: there will be MSVC2013 packages if there are people testing them. Join

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Felix morack
Deal! I am sure we can gather enough people for testing a msvc2013 package. I'll subs. to the release slit momentarily. Any ideas when we can expect 5.2.1? ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Michael Sué
Hi, I think support for VS 2010 should be held up as long as WINDOWS XP is officially supported (April 2014). The newer VS versions do not support native development on WINDOWS XP but this will stop to be an issue as soon as the platform does no longer exist. - Michael.

Re: [Interest] VS2013

2013-12-12 Thread Yves Bailly
Le 13/12/2013 08:50, Michael Sué a écrit : I think support for VS 2010 should be held up as long as WINDOWS XP is officially supported (April 2014). The newer VS versions do not support native development on WINDOWS XP but this will stop to be an issue as soon as the platform does no longer