Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
05.02.2021, 12:32, "Lorn Potter" : > On 31/1/21 12:09 AM, Roland Hughes wrote: >> If history repeats itself, and in the software industry it most >> definitely does, requiring a login to obtain the OpenSource code >> effectively ended OpenSource Qt. > > really? > I guess maybe 'git clone http://code.qt.io/qt/qt5.git' > is a bit too much to ask for open source developers to type. Or https://download.qt.io/archive/qt/. -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
On 31/1/21 12:09 AM, Roland Hughes wrote: If history repeats itself, and in the software industry it most definitely does, requiring a login to obtain the OpenSource code effectively ended OpenSource Qt. really? I guess maybe 'git clone http://code.qt.io/qt/qt5.git' is a bit too much to ask for open source developers to type. -- Lorn Potter Freelance Qt Developer. Platform Maintainer Qt WebAssembly, Maintainer QtSensors Author, Hands-on Mobile and Embedded Development with Qt 5 ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
On 1/30/2021 5:00 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 03:57, Florian Bruhin wrote: Hey, On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:08:44PM +0530, Nibedit Dey wrote: I am looking for a way to install Qt6 without downloading the *qt-unified-linux-x86-4.0.1-online.run* file. Is there a Qt 6 Ubuntu package like the one for Qt 5? e.g.:- *sudo apt-get install qt5-default* Ubuntu's packages are mostly inherited from Debian, where the Qt package maintainers stepped down before the Qt 6 release because of a lack of time: https://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/2020/08/stepping-down-as-qt-6-maintainers.html https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Debian-Needs-Qt6-Maintainers Also see: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2021-January/003236.html Given that everyone there is focusing on the next Debian Stable (Bullseye) which will ship Qt 5.15.2, I doubt there was work on Qt 6 so far. I can also add that so far no one stepped up to do the job yet. I only got one request for information about it. They won't. If history repeats itself, and in the software industry it most definitely does, requiring a login to obtain the OpenSource code effectively ended OpenSource Qt. I'm sure others have their favorite example, but I will use Berkeley DB for mine. Visit the Oracle site for the package and you will see it is up to version 12C. All you have to do is create an account to obtain it. I just checked some machines in the office: fedora 33: 5.3.28-44 /45 Manjaro KDE current: v5.3.28-4 /5 Ubuntu 20.04 LTS: v5.3.28 Due to historic reasons Gnu COBOL uses berkeley for its indexed file support. They have instructions for building from source to use VBISAM, but the entire project is hamstrung at berkeley 5.3 when it comes to indexed files. The businesses using Gnu COBOL assign a sacrificial lamb to get an account and pull down the updated berkeley DB. This same thing is now in the process of happening for Qt. Maintainers and developers bowing out because they won't create an account. KDE is now faced some hard cold reality. 1) Freezing the version of Qt used at the last 5.15 publicly available within the majority of distros. 2) Being frozen at its current release by all distros because the last publicly available 5.15 is all they have. 3) Completely take over the maintainer duties for _all_ Linux distros 4) Abandon Qt for a real OpenSource project that doesn't require an account to pull down 5) Watch every distro drop KDE like Linux Mint has already done Of these possibilities option 5 is most likely at this point in time. That would be kind of sad because Manjaro actually did a good job with their KDE implementation. Some odd bugs but a really good job overall. Most Linux distro KDE options generally suck for a user, but Manjaro got it right. Every developer on this list maintaining an OpenSource package developed with qt has basically the same choices in front of them. They can move to a different package or watch things die a slow death. As a general rule, maintainers won't create an account. They want to be able to script the fetch and build; scheduling a batch job to run during the wee hours. The last version of Qt that could be obtained in this way will be as far as Qt goes in the world of Linux just like Berkeley DB is perpetually trapped at v5.3.28. Most of the companies and developers I communicate with have ceased looking at Qt as a viable option because of this fact and all of the licensing FUD. Hmmm https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-distributions/ According to that post MX Linux with Xfce desktop is now the most popular Linux desktop. The software world blinks and forgets. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://infiniteexposure.net https://lesedi.us https://johnsmith-book.com https://logikalblog.com https://interestingauthors.com/blog ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
Hi! On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 03:57, Florian Bruhin wrote: > > Hey, > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:08:44PM +0530, Nibedit Dey wrote: > > I am looking for a way to install Qt6 without downloading the > > *qt-unified-linux-x86-4.0.1-online.run* file. > > Is there a Qt 6 Ubuntu package like the one for Qt 5? e.g.:- *sudo apt-get > > install qt5-default* > > Ubuntu's packages are mostly inherited from Debian, where the Qt package > maintainers stepped down before the Qt 6 release because of a lack of > time: > > https://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/2020/08/stepping-down-as-qt-6-maintainers.html > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Debian-Needs-Qt6-Maintainers > > Also see: > > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2021-January/003236.html > > Given that everyone there is focusing on the next Debian Stable > (Bullseye) which will ship Qt 5.15.2, I doubt there was work on Qt 6 so > far. I can also add that so far no one stepped up to do the job yet. I only got one request for information about it. ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
On 28/1/21 5:56 pm, Florian Bruhin wrote: Hey, On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:08:44PM +0530, Nibedit Dey wrote: I am looking for a way to install Qt6 without downloading the *qt-unified-linux-x86-4.0.1-online.run* file. Is there a Qt 6 Ubuntu package like the one for Qt 5? e.g.:- *sudo apt-get install qt5-default* Ubuntu's packages are mostly inherited from Debian, where the Qt package maintainers stepped down before the Qt 6 release because of a lack of time: I've been using this PPA for Qt packages: https://launchpad.net/~beineri although there is no Qt 6 there yet. These packages install in /opt and don't conflict with the Debian/Ubuntu-provided Qt packages. Despite them being for Ubuntu I have installed them on Debian bullseye, although I did recompile qtbase mostly to fix an SQL driver problem. Hamish ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
Hey, On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:08:44PM +0530, Nibedit Dey wrote: > I am looking for a way to install Qt6 without downloading the > *qt-unified-linux-x86-4.0.1-online.run* file. > Is there a Qt 6 Ubuntu package like the one for Qt 5? e.g.:- *sudo apt-get > install qt5-default* Ubuntu's packages are mostly inherited from Debian, where the Qt package maintainers stepped down before the Qt 6 release because of a lack of time: https://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/2020/08/stepping-down-as-qt-6-maintainers.html https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Debian-Needs-Qt6-Maintainers Also see: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2021-January/003236.html Given that everyone there is focusing on the next Debian Stable (Bullseye) which will ship Qt 5.15.2, I doubt there was work on Qt 6 so far. Also note that pretty much nothing is ported to Qt 6 at this point, because many modules are still missing in Qt 6.0 (and probably 6.1 too). Thus, you'll probably have to use the online installer (or an alternative such as aqtinstall). Florian -- m...@the-compiler.org | https://www.qutebrowser.org https://bruhin.software/ | https://github.com/sponsors/The-Compiler/ GPG: 916E B0C8 FD55 A072 | https://the-compiler.org/pubkey.asc I love long mails! | https://email.is-not-s.ms/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
[Interest] Qt 6 Ubuntu package
Hello Everyone, I am looking for a way to install Qt6 without downloading the *qt-unified-linux-x86-4.0.1-online.run* file. Is there a Qt 6 Ubuntu package like the one for Qt 5? e.g.:- *sudo apt-get install qt5-default* Please let me know. Thanks & Regards, Nibedit ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
