Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-12 Thread André Pönitz
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:34:45PM -0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Wednesday, 11 de January de 2012 15.34.34, Alex Malyushytskyy wrote: No you don't. You have something which tries to implement Svg Tiny, but apparently is not complete or bug-free. I believe you are wrong. Check

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Uwe Rathmann
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:35:15 -0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: A device with limited resources but powerful enough that rasterising SVG on the fly isn't an issue? It is - but as our layouts are fix during the runtime of the application this only has to be done once. Later the icons are taken from

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Martin Holmes
These are all good reasons why a fast, light implementation of SvgTiny is a really good idea. And we have one, and it works well for the kind of simple GUI graphics that show up in touch interfaces and on toolbars. So I ask again: What's the process for lobbying to keep QtSvg as a supported

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hi, A few years ago everybody in KDE was sure WebKit was going to replace QtSVG for SVG rendering. It was assumed WebKit would be better for SVG. Then someone (Ariya?) actually experimented and compared QtSVG, WebKit, librsvg and some more (AntiGrain?). Surprisingly The result was WebKit was

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 11.01.12 08:11:19, Martin Holmes wrote: These are all good reasons why a fast, light implementation of SvgTiny is a really good idea. And we have one, No you don't. You have something which tries to implement Svg Tiny, but apparently is not complete or bug-free. and it works well for the

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Jason H
You bring up a good point. If we moved to the lib with qt wrappers, maybe as a qt plugin we'd  keep everyone happy and qtsvg  could die. -J ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Jason H
You bring up a good point. If we moved to the lib with qt wrappers, maybe as a qt plugin we'd  keep everyone happy and qtsvg  could die. -J ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Uwe Rathmann
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:05:40 -0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: Can't you pre-rasterise the files and store them on the device's image? Sounds like a much better solution to me. The sizes of the icons are the result of the calculation of QLayouts - I don't know them in advance. They might even

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 11 de January de 2012 17.33.22, Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 11.01.12 08:11:19, Martin Holmes wrote: These are all good reasons why a fast, light implementation of SvgTiny is a really good idea. And we have one, No you don't. You have something which tries to implement Svg

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Martin Holmes
On 12-01-11 08:33 AM, Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 11.01.12 08:11:19, Martin Holmes wrote: These are all good reasons why a fast, light implementation of SvgTiny is a really good idea. And we have one, No you don't. You have something which tries to implement Svg Tiny, but apparently is not

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 11 de January de 2012 09.08.46, Martin Holmes wrote: A couple of people have already suggested that they might help. I don't have the graphics skills myself. But I was wondering whether we could make the case to the Nokia/Qt team themselves that they should un-deprecate it.

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Pier Luigi
2012/1/11 Uwe Rathmann uwe.rathm...@tigertal.de: On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:35:15 -0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: A device with limited resources but powerful enough that rasterising SVG on the fly isn't an issue? It is - but as our layouts are fix during the runtime of the application this only

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 11 de January de 2012 15.34.34, Alex Malyushytskyy wrote: No you don't. You have something which tries to implement Svg Tiny, but apparently is not complete or bug-free. I believe you are wrong. Check discussion above and there was a statement that it is considered Complete

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-10 Thread Martin Holmes
a new label. Seems easier to add a label then to re-engineer the module. *From:* Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org *To:* interest@qt-project.org *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 10:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Interest] QtSVG

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 10 de January de 2012 05.13.57, Martin Holmes wrote: When I moved to Qt (from Delphi), I was delighted to discover that QImage supported SVG, because I'd been used to having to provide icon sets in multiple resolutions just to enable users to change toolbar sizes. SVG icons seemed

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-10 Thread Jason H
; interest@qt-project.org interest@qt-project.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated I hear Samsung might want their own OS... :-) I thought Qt has handed over to Digia, but is still being worked on by the trolls. I'm confused.  If we're under open

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-10 Thread Christian Quast
Dear all, (QSvgGenerator is part of the SVG module isn't it? Otherwise my question is rendered mute.) I am also using SVG in my application which is a desktop application that presents the user with a graphical representation of their data. I use a QGraphicsScene to do on-screen rendering.

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Dan White
Thiago ! Contact me off-list, please. (or I will when I get home and dig your address out of my mailing list archives) I might be willing to volunteer to maintain this piece. One motivation is that I use it in a project of mine and transitioning to QtWebKit just for the SVG may cause excessive

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Jason H
interest@qt-project.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated Recently I've had my apps rejected on the Mac app store for using a custom webkit (QtWebKit). The main use was to render SVG into QImages. Going forward, I'm planning on using the QtSvg module

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated I don't think it's going away, it's just not being maintained. It's good for what it does, but many of the desired enhancements would result in the module blowing up in run-time size. The module exists as a good trade-off. And this I think is why

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Monday, January 09, 2012 21:40:32 Dan White wrote: Thiago ! Contact me off-list, please. (or I will when I get home and dig your address out of my mailing list archives) I might be willing to volunteer to maintain this piece. One motivation is that I use it in a project of mine and

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Martin Holmes
*Cc:* interest@qt-project.org *Subject:* Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated I don't think it's going away, it's just not being maintained. It's good for what it does, but many of the desired enhancements would result in the module blowing up in run-time size. The module exists as a good trade-off

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Jason H
, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated I'm glad to hear this, because I also use QtDom, and can't imagine processing XML documents without it. But the status of Deprecated definitely means: Module or code will be eventually removed (Qt source and binary compatibility guidelines

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Jason H
To: interest@qt-project.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated That’s the point.  Thiago, assure me, QtDom is NOT going anywhere.. However, its depreciated and not supported.  While I understand your concern, and I have it as well..  Depricated in Qt

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
in memory… but there are major limitations to that… Scott From: Jason H [mailto:scorp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:34 PM To: Scott Aron Bloom; interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated The stream classes are *NOT* a replacement. How do you change

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Monday, January 09, 2012 14:52:11 Jason H wrote: Then open governance needs to step in and issue assurances to all of us that things won't change. Open Governance is you. At least to the extent of any assurance can be given. If you want it to be maintained then start maintaining it and

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 10 de January de 2012 00.10.44, Stephen Kelly wrote: On Monday, January 09, 2012 14:52:11 Jason H wrote: Then open governance needs to step in and issue assurances to all of us that things won't change. Open Governance is you. At least to the extent of any assurance can be

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 9 de January de 2012 14.16.05, Scott Aron Bloom wrote: This came up at DevDays... There needs to be a status of No maintained because we consider it complete Meaning, the code is stable, known bugs are fixed, and new enhancements will not be added as other classes are

Re: [Interest] QtSVG deprecated

2012-01-09 Thread Constantin Makshin
On Jan 10, 2012 7:59 AM, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, 9 de January de 2012 16.47.49, Alex Malyushytskyy wrote: As somebody mentioned above svg is the great way to create scalable graphics which currently works an all platforms including icons (but not limited to icons).