Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread Joseph Crowell
On 11/07/2013 07:33 PM, André Pönitz wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 07:51:16AM +0100, Tomasz Olszak wrote: 2013/11/7 Uwe Rathmann uwe.rathm...@tigertal.de On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:03:47 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 07-11-2013 07:40, Uwe Rathmann skrev: On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:03:47 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are where they were supposed to be. That's by design. With some nasty consequences for us users: Our applications run on several pieces of

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread Mandeep Sandhu
For Qt4 JSON support, I've used Eeli Reilins QtJSON and been very happy with it: https://github.com/da4c30ff/qt-json. I recommend it. We've been using Flavio Castelli's QJson in our embedded project with Qt4 and it's worked out well. http://qjson.sourceforge.net/ HTH, -mandeep Bo. --

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread Uwe Rathmann
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:47:36 +0100, Bo Thorsen wrote: With a 7 year old board, this is what you can expect to start hitting. It's so old, that you just can't expect brand new software to run on it. The strategy of Qt5 is to introduce a new graphic stack but also to keep the old old one alive.

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 8 de novembro de 2013 16:31:37, Mandeep Sandhu wrote: We've been using Flavio Castelli's QJson in our embedded project with Qt4 and it's worked out well. http://qjson.sourceforge.net/ I've played with it too. I would recommend using Girish's parser instead. Compared to

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-08 Thread André Pönitz
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 07:15:29PM +, Joseph Crowell wrote: AFAIK you can build Qt5 with no-opengl switch and you should be able to run QtWidgets applications without having libQt5OpenGl dependency in libQt5Gui. The problem is that this won't scale. One cannot provide custom builds of

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 7 de novembro de 2013 08:40:03, William Hallatt wrote: On 7 November 2013 00:38, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 20:12:33, phil.kursawe@gmail.comwrote: I see. I thought Qt renders using the system natively. It could

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 7 de novembro de 2013 08:34:53, Philipp Kursawe wrote: OpenGL should not be a dependency on a base windowing framework imho. We disagree. We concluded a couple of years ago that OpenGL is the future. Therefore, that's not an argument. What would be an argument would be to be

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-07 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 07:51:16AM +0100, Tomasz Olszak wrote: 2013/11/7 Uwe Rathmann uwe.rathm...@tigertal.de On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:03:47 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are where they were supposed to be. That's by design.

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-07 Thread William Hallatt
On 7 November 2013 19:42, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quinta-feira, 7 de novembro de 2013 08:40:03, William Hallatt wrote: On 7 November 2013 00:38, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 20:12:33,

[Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Philipp Kursawe
I wonder... what are the reasons for this dependency? ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 13:26:56, Philipp Kursawe wrote: I wonder... what are the reasons for this dependency? The QOpenGL* classes that are in QtGui. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center signature.asc

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Philipp Kursawe
Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.comwrote: On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 13:26:56, Philipp Kursawe wrote: I wonder... what are the reasons for this dependency? The QOpenGL* classes that are in QtGui. --

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Tomasz Olszak
2013/11/6 Philipp Kursawe phil.kurs...@gmail.com Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? They are, but when you build Qt with OpenGL support some additional parts of Qt Gui are built. For example OpenGL type of QPaintEngine is provided:

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 16:43:51, Philipp Kursawe wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are where they were supposed to be. That's by design. The OpenGL integration needs to be provided by the platform plugin anyway, so OpenGL support ends up getting loaded whether

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread phil.kursawe
I see. I thought Qt renders using the system natively. It could load opengl like it loads SSL support, dynamically. How do I enable opengl rendering then for my widget based application? From: Tomasz Olszak Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎6‎, ‎2013 ‎16‎:‎58 To: Philipp Kursawe Cc:

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Tomasz Olszak
2013/11/6 phil.kurs...@gmail.com I see. I thought Qt renders using the system natively. It could load opengl like it loads SSL support, dynamically. How do I enable opengl rendering then for my widget based application? See http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtgui/qpaintengine.html#details

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 20:12:33, phil.kurs...@gmail.com wrote: I see. I thought Qt renders using the system natively. It could load opengl like it loads SSL support, dynamically. That's a solution we really dislike. We're forced to do it for SSL, for legal reasons. But we

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread William Hallatt
On 7 November 2013 00:38, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quarta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2013 20:12:33, phil.kursawe@gmail.comwrote: I see. I thought Qt renders using the system natively. It could load opengl like it loads SSL support, dynamically. That's a solution we

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Uwe Rathmann
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:03:47 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are where they were supposed to be. That's by design. With some nasty consequences for us users: Our applications run on several pieces of embedded hardware, where one of them had been

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Tomasz Olszak
2013/11/7 Uwe Rathmann uwe.rathm...@tigertal.de On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:03:47 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: Shouldn't they be in Qt5OpenGL.dll? No, they are where they were supposed to be. That's by design. With some nasty consequences for us users: Our applications run on several

Re: [Interest] What for does qt5gui need OpenGL?

2013-11-06 Thread Philipp Kursawe
Why don't you like the dynamic loading solution? I would always prefer it over static linking, if possible. All plugin based systems (even Qt, where platform is a plugin) are based on dynamic code loading. OpenGL should not be a dependency on a base windowing framework imho. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013