Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Robert Iakobashvili]

Good, voted for the issues you have mentioned.

Yes, we need API:

1. to hide/show selection handles and cursor;
2. to customize their size, color, style etc.

Kind regards,
Robert

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Bernhard B  wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> thanks, voted for the issue!
>
> By the way, there are some more tickets regarding the selection/cursor
> handles. e.q QTBUG-58700 and QTBUG-57031.
>
> Unfortunately there seems to be no API to manually hide/show the
> selection/cursor handles. Otherwise it would be possible to add some fixes
> to the enduser application to fix some issues there in the meantime.
>
> So I hope that one of the Android maintainers finds some time to tackle
> some of the issues. I would really appreciate that a LOT and it would for
> sure also result in more awesome showcase applications (as I said, in my
> experience most of the users start with a TextArea and just a few basic
> components).
>
> Bernhard
>
> Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :
>
>> Hi Bernhard,
>> Absolutely agree. Please, vote for the issue to be fixed. Thanks.
>>
>> There's a clear business case coming for QWidgets at Android:
>>
>> Chromebooks get Android apps and there Desktop like apps
>> based on Widgets are looking really really good.
>>
>> Take care!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Robert
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Bernhard B  wrote:
>>
>>> I really hope there will be some changes regarding the TextSelection
>>> handle implementation on Android for the upcoming Qt 5.9.x releases, as
>>> there are a few issues with them.
>>>
>>> In my eyes having a TextArea with working selection handles is such a
>>> basic feature that should work flawlessly with every framework.
>>> Unfortunately Qt is lacking here a bit :/
>>>
>>> I am trying really hard to convince people to give Qt for mobile app
>>> development a try. Usually they fall in love with QML very quickly, but
>>> it's really hard to make them stick with Qt when such essential things
>>> aren't working properly. Typically adding a TextField/TextArea and a few
>>> buttons is the first thing that people are trying out.
>>>
>>> I really hope that there will be changes in the upcoming Qt 5.9 patch
>>> release. I am really glad that the selection handle stuff was integrated
>>> with Qt 5.8 - that was really awesome and added a big missing piece. But
>>> please don't make the mistake and leave it like this.
>>>
>>> Bernhard
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :
>>>
 On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM, ekke  wrote:

> Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
> >> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke 
> wrote:
>  I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles
> and Qt 5.8
>  To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some
> workarounds.
> 
>  Today blogged about:
>  https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handl
> es-qt-5-8/
> 
>  perhaps it helps others
> 
>  ekke (ekkehard gentz)
> 
> >>> Dear Ekke,
> >>> Thank you very much.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
> >>>
> >>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
> >>>
> >>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Robert
>

 Hi,
 I've opened the issue:

 QTBUG-62426 

 Kind regards,
 Robert



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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Bernhard B]

Hi Robert,

thanks, voted for the issue!

By the way, there are some more tickets regarding the selection/cursor
handles. e.q QTBUG-58700 and QTBUG-57031.

Unfortunately there seems to be no API to manually hide/show the
selection/cursor handles. Otherwise it would be possible to add some fixes
to the enduser application to fix some issues there in the meantime.

So I hope that one of the Android maintainers finds some time to tackle
some of the issues. I would really appreciate that a LOT and it would for
sure also result in more awesome showcase applications (as I said, in my
experience most of the users start with a TextArea and just a few basic
components).

Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :

> Hi Bernhard,
> Absolutely agree. Please, vote for the issue to be fixed. Thanks.
>
> There's a clear business case coming for QWidgets at Android:
>
> Chromebooks get Android apps and there Desktop like apps
> based on Widgets are looking really really good.
>
> Take care!
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Bernhard B  > wrote:
>
>> I really hope there will be some changes regarding the TextSelection
>> handle implementation on Android for the upcoming Qt 5.9.x releases, as
>> there are a few issues with them.
>>
>> In my eyes having a TextArea with working selection handles is such a
>> basic feature that should work flawlessly with every framework.
>> Unfortunately Qt is lacking here a bit :/
>>
>> I am trying really hard to convince people to give Qt for mobile app
>> development a try. Usually they fall in love with QML very quickly, but
>> it's really hard to make them stick with Qt when such essential things
>> aren't working properly. Typically adding a TextField/TextArea and a few
>> buttons is the first thing that people are trying out.
>>
>> I really hope that there will be changes in the upcoming Qt 5.9 patch
>> release. I am really glad that the selection handle stuff was integrated
>> with Qt 5.8 - that was really awesome and added a big missing piece. But
>> please don't make the mistake and leave it like this.
>>
>> Bernhard
>>
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM, ekke  wrote:
>>>
 Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
 > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
 >> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
 >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke 
 wrote:
  I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles
 and Qt 5.8
  To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some
 workarounds.
 
  Today blogged about:
  https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handl
 es-qt-5-8/
 
  perhaps it helps others
 
  ekke (ekkehard gentz)
 
 >>> Dear Ekke,
 >>> Thank you very much.
 >>>
 >>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
 >>>
 >>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
 >>>
 >>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
 >>>
 >>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
 >>>
 >>> Kind regards,
 >>> Robert

>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I've opened the issue:
>>>
>>> QTBUG-62426 
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Robert Iakobashvili]

Hi Bernhard,
Absolutely agree. Please, vote for the issue to be fixed. Thanks.

There's a clear business case coming for QWidgets at Android:

Chromebooks get Android apps and there Desktop like apps
based on Widgets are looking really really good.

Take care!

Kind regards,
Robert

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Bernhard B  wrote:

> I really hope there will be some changes regarding the TextSelection
> handle implementation on Android for the upcoming Qt 5.9.x releases, as
> there are a few issues with them.
>
> In my eyes having a TextArea with working selection handles is such a
> basic feature that should work flawlessly with every framework.
> Unfortunately Qt is lacking here a bit :/
>
> I am trying really hard to convince people to give Qt for mobile app
> development a try. Usually they fall in love with QML very quickly, but
> it's really hard to make them stick with Qt when such essential things
> aren't working properly. Typically adding a TextField/TextArea and a few
> buttons is the first thing that people are trying out.
>
> I really hope that there will be changes in the upcoming Qt 5.9 patch
> release. I am really glad that the selection handle stuff was integrated
> with Qt 5.8 - that was really awesome and added a big missing piece. But
> please don't make the mistake and leave it like this.
>
> Bernhard
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :
>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM, ekke  wrote:
>>
>>> Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>>> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
>>> >> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
>>>  I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles
>>> and Qt 5.8
>>>  To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some
>>> workarounds.
>>> 
>>>  Today blogged about:
>>>  https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handl
>>> es-qt-5-8/
>>> 
>>>  perhaps it helps others
>>> 
>>>  ekke (ekkehard gentz)
>>> 
>>> >>> Dear Ekke,
>>> >>> Thank you very much.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kind regards,
>>> >>> Robert
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I've opened the issue:
>>
>> QTBUG-62426 
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Bernhard B]

I really hope there will be some changes regarding the TextSelection handle
implementation on Android for the upcoming Qt 5.9.x releases, as there are
a few issues with them.

In my eyes having a TextArea with working selection handles is such a basic
feature that should work flawlessly with every framework. Unfortunately Qt
is lacking here a bit :/

I am trying really hard to convince people to give Qt for mobile app
development a try. Usually they fall in love with QML very quickly, but
it's really hard to make them stick with Qt when such essential things
aren't working properly. Typically adding a TextField/TextArea and a few
buttons is the first thing that people are trying out.

I really hope that there will be changes in the upcoming Qt 5.9 patch
release. I am really glad that the selection handle stuff was integrated
with Qt 5.8 - that was really awesome and added a big missing piece. But
please don't make the mistake and leave it like this.

Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili :

> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM, ekke  > wrote:
>
>> Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke > > wrote:
>> >> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>> >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke > > wrote:
>>  I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and
>> Qt 5.8
>>  To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some
>> workarounds.
>> 
>>  Today blogged about:
>>  https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handl
>> es-qt-5-8/
>> 
>>  perhaps it helps others
>> 
>>  ekke (ekkehard gentz)
>> 
>> >>> Dear Ekke,
>> >>> Thank you very much.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
>> >>>
>> >>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind regards,
>> >>> Robert
>>
>
> Hi,
> I've opened the issue:
>
> QTBUG-62426 
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
>
>
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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Robert Iakobashvili]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM, ekke  wrote:

> Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
> >> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
>  I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and
> Qt 5.8
>  To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some
> workarounds.
> 
>  Today blogged about:
>  https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-
> handles-qt-5-8/
> 
>  perhaps it helps others
> 
>  ekke (ekkehard gentz)
> 
> >>> Dear Ekke,
> >>> Thank you very much.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
> >>>
> >>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
> >>>
> >>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Robert
>

Hi,
I've opened the issue:

QTBUG-62426 

Kind regards,
Robert
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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[ekke]

Am 25.03.17 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
>> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
 I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and Qt 5.8
 To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some workarounds.

 Today blogged about:
 https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handles-qt-5-8/

 perhaps it helps others

 ekke (ekkehard gentz)

>>> Dear Ekke,
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
>>>
>>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
>>>
>>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
>>>
>>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Robert
>>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> sorry - never did Qt Widgets development
>>
>> developed 4 years BlackBerry10 Cascades / Qt 4.8
>> started Qt development for mobile (Android, iOS, W10 will follow) with
>> QtQuickControls2
>>
>> ekke
> Dear Ekke,
>
> My guess that making
>
> selectByMouse: true
>
> is a general recommendation and for Widgets as well.
>
> There are some recommendations on net as for getting rid from
> handles by placing a null image, but hopefully the issues will be fixed
> somewhere in Qt-5.9.1
>
> Thanks once more.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
Hi Robert,

from discussion with J-P I learned that selectByMouse is in conflict
with Flickable and scrolling multi line TextArea and should not be set
on touch device with QQC2.

ekke

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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Robert Iakobashvili]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, ekke  wrote:
> Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
>>> I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and Qt 5.8
>>> To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some workarounds.
>>>
>>> Today blogged about:
>>> https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handles-qt-5-8/
>>>
>>> perhaps it helps others
>>>
>>> ekke (ekkehard gentz)
>>>
>> Dear Ekke,
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
>>
>> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
>>
>> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
>>
>> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Robert
>>
> Hi Robert,
>
> sorry - never did Qt Widgets development
>
> developed 4 years BlackBerry10 Cascades / Qt 4.8
> started Qt development for mobile (Android, iOS, W10 will follow) with
> QtQuickControls2
>
> ekke

Dear Ekke,

My guess that making

selectByMouse: true

is a general recommendation and for Widgets as well.

There are some recommendations on net as for getting rid from
handles by placing a null image, but hopefully the issues will be fixed
somewhere in Qt-5.9.1

Thanks once more.

Kind regards,
Robert
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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[ekke]

Am 25.03.17 um 17:30 schrieb Robert Iakobashvili:
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
>> I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and Qt 5.8
>> To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some workarounds.
>>
>> Today blogged about:
>> https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handles-qt-5-8/
>>
>> perhaps it helps others
>>
>> ekke (ekkehard gentz)
>>
> Dear Ekke,
> Thank you very much.
>
> Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.
>
> Do you have recommendations for widgets?
>
> Do you know how to get rid from the handles?
>
> This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
Hi Robert,

sorry - never did Qt Widgets development

developed 4 years BlackBerry10 Cascades / Qt 4.8
started Qt development for mobile (Android, iOS, W10 will follow) with
QtQuickControls2

ekke

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Re: [Interest] [Android-development] Text Selection Handles Qt 5.8 QQC2 - some workarounds

[Robert Iakobashvili]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:23 PM, ekke  wrote:
> I remember some posts about problems with Text Selection Handles and Qt 5.8
> To provide a solution customers can work with I developed some workarounds.
>
> Today blogged about:
> https://appbus.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/text-selection-handles-qt-5-8/
>
> perhaps it helps others
>
> ekke (ekkehard gentz)
>

Dear Ekke,
Thank you very much.

Yes, the selection handles are too buggy on Android at Qt-5.8.

Do you have recommendations for widgets?

Do you know how to get rid from the handles?

This is a show stopper for me not to move up from 5.7.

Kind regards,
Robert
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