Re: [PHP-DEV] Removal of unicode_semantics

2008-05-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So for now we should remove the switch. We can do this if needed. Who is we in this context? Zend? Scott is already working on the removal but I'll bet he would really appreciate help with it. -Hannes -- PHP Internals -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: snaps scripts

2008-05-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Steph Fox wrote: Thanks! I wasn't aware of --enable-snapshot-build - maybe it will do everything I wanted from it, will check. Maybe we need to re-organize configure --help output to put this kind of info near the top :) Why? This is something that's not meant for

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 Makefile template patch.

2008-05-08 Thread Richard Quadling
2008/5/7 Hannes Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Richard Quadling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. [..] The attached patch forces the use of 'rd' rather than 'rmdir'. Only plain/text attachments get through the list.. -Hannes Basically searchreplace

Re: [PHP-DEV] Couple Windows build fixes

2008-05-08 Thread Matt Wilmas
Hi all, Thanks guys and gals! (Steph, you're funny. ;o)) Yeah, I didn't get any karma after my account was approved a few weeks ago, though I told Marcus I'd been making random changes all across the PHP source, so would need access to php-src and ZendEngine2... But I didn't expect that to

RE: [PHP-DEV] Removal of unicode_semantics

2008-05-08 Thread Andi Gutmans
See below: -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:23 AM To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Andrei Zmievski; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Removal of unicode_semantics Scott is already working on this AFAIK. And

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 Makefile template patch.

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Richard, Basically searchreplace rmdir with rd in the win32/build/Makefile Why? rd's just an alias of rmdir, and rmdir's the more human-readable of the two. - Steph -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 Makefile template patch.

2008-05-08 Thread Richard Quadling
2008/5/8 Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Richard, Basically searchreplace rmdir with rd in the win32/build/Makefile Why? rd's just an alias of rmdir, and rmdir's the more human-readable of the two. - Steph If only I could send the sound of my shoulders slumping as yet another post is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 Makefile template patch.

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
If only I could send the sound of my shoulders slumping as yet another post is ignored/filtered. http://news.php.net/php.internals/37517 I only asked why :) As I said in the original post, if you have cygwin installed (as was needed to build the PHP documentation in the bad old days before

Re: [PHP-DEV] Couple Windows build fixes

2008-05-08 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Matt Wilmas wrote: BTW, if I had karma for Zend stuff, I guess I could fix Bugs #44681 and #44830 You already have Zend karma. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Couple Windows build fixes

2008-05-08 Thread Matt Wilmas
Hi Rasmus, - Original Message - From: Rasmus Lerdorf Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 Matt Wilmas wrote: BTW, if I had karma for Zend stuff, I guess I could fix Bugs #44681 and #44830 You already have Zend karma. I was going by your CVSROOT/avail commit, and checking the file now, it

[PHP-DEV] Supporting External Authentication in the Oracle OCI8 Extension

2008-05-08 Thread Christopher Jones
I've had a couple of recent requests for the OCI8 extension to support External Authentication (aka OS authentication). I also recall a discussion or two in the past, and there is at least one bug logged on it. Having external authentication would allow things like Kerberos to be used for OCI8

[PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
Hi all, Following a long and fairly embarrassing exchange of views with one of my php|architect authors, I finally discovered that allow_call_time_pass_reference is still on by default in PHP_5_3 (d'oh). This makes no sense to me because: - it throws an E_DEPRECATED warning, which nobody

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Todd Ruth
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:28 +0100, Steph Fox wrote: ... Does anyone have a good reason for keeping it switched on by default in PHP 5.3? Like, would switching it off by default break a lot of existing code, given that most users are a bit beyond PHP 3 now? Well, I can at least comment on

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! I think we also had a proposal back then to have func_gets_arg[s] ability to accept params by reference, and it should help with some scenarios. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Internals

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Todd, Well, I can at least comment on how it is used in the code that I inherited. Thanks for that. Just to be very clear, I'm not talking about removing it (even though it's been marked deprecated for 8 years plus). I'm just talking about switching it off by default. It's been turned

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Stas, I think we also had a proposal back then to have func_gets_arg[s] ability to accept params by reference, and it should help with some scenarios. Sorry, I failed to parse that. What would help with some scenarios? - Steph -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Todd Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:28 +0100, Steph Fox wrote: ... Does anyone have a good reason for keeping it switched on by default in PHP 5.3? Like, would switching it off by default break a lot of existing code, given that most

Re: [PHP-DEV] Supporting External Authentication in the Oracle OCI8 Extension

2008-05-08 Thread Michael B Allen
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a couple of recent requests for the OCI8 extension to support External Authentication (aka OS authentication). I also recall a discussion or two in the past, and there is at least one bug logged on it.

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a good reason for keeping it switched on by default in PHP 5.3? Like, would switching it off by default break a lot of existing code, given that most users are a bit beyond PHP 3 now? I've never understood the

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Todd Ruth
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 22:58 +0200, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Todd Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:28 +0100, Steph Fox wrote: ... Does anyone have a good reason for keeping it switched on by default in PHP 5.3? Like, would switching it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Removal of unicode_semantics

2008-05-08 Thread Andrei Zmievski
The easiest thing would be just to default unicode_semantics to On internally and hide it from users. Don't remove all the UG(unicode) checks yet, because we can test migration/compatibility with those in place. -Andrei Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andi Gutmans wrote: Yep, we

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Hector Santos
Steph Fox wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have a good reason for keeping it switched on by default in PHP 5.3? Like, would switching it off by default break a lot of existing code, given that most users are a bit beyond PHP 3 now? As a new PHP extension author, it was one the first things I had

Re: [PHP-DEV] allow_call_time_pass_reference

2008-05-08 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Hector, As a new PHP extension author, it was one the first things I had to make sure was enabled to avoid the warning. huge snip / May I suggest to make it [Extension] INI ready? I explored this and it seem to work, but not sure if its really the case. It appears that adding it in my