Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Scott MacVicar
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: On 22.11.2008, at 14:52, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Work is still going on to finalize the namespace changes. I am not sure when this will be done, I am sort of hoping Monday. Then we can freeze Tuesday and release on Thursday if all goes well. The good news,

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Alexey Zakhlestin
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22.11.2008, at 14:52, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Work is still going on to finalize the namespace changes. I am not sure when this will be done, I am sort of hoping Monday. Then we can freeze Tuesday and release on

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 19:36 +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote: Following files are still not converted to the new parameter parsing API: - ext/mysql/php_mysql.c That's mostly done, some small issues left, will commit before alpha ... - ext/mysqli/mysqli_embedded.c That's not done yet, but only

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Felipe Pena
Em Qua, 2008-11-26 às 19:36 +0300, Alexey Zakhlestin escreveu: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22.11.2008, at 14:52, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Work is still going on to finalize the namespace changes. I am not sure when this will be done, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 26.11.2008, at 11:21, Scott MacVicar wrote: Independent of that I need someone to handle the move of ext/mhash to PECL. Why not just delete the extension? There isn't anything valuable in there as it just wraps around hash now, it is literally an empty module and a configure

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! Then again, we maintain BC aside from this single call to determine if the extension is loaded, so I guess yeah .. lets just remove it .. we are expecting people to update their code. If we have function-level BC - why not just add stub extension with dependency on hash? -- Stanislav

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Stanislav, why not have a secondary extension definition in ext/hash? Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:06:03 PM, you wrote: Hi! Then again, we maintain BC aside from this single call to determine if the extension is loaded, so I guess yeah .. lets just remove it .. we are

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! why not have a secondary extension definition in ext/hash? Would be fine too, if loading can handle that correctly. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Scott MacVicar
On 26 Nov 2008, at 18:56, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Stanislav, why not have a secondary extension definition in ext/hash? Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:06:03 PM, you wrote: Hi! Then again, we maintain BC aside from this single call to determine if the extension is

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Bug Summary Report

2008-11-26 Thread Christopher Jones
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hello all, Just some observations. Keep in mind I am just trying to see in what area's we should try and find people to help out. So please do not interpret this email as me telling people what they should do with their time. However I am, just like Jani, a bit

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 20:21, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! why not have a secondary extension definition in ext/hash? Would be fine too, if loading can handle that correctly. Don't we do that already? What exactly was the vote from last week about? I thought it was about

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Scott, Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:33:59 PM, you wrote: On 26 Nov 2008, at 18:56, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Stanislav, why not have a secondary extension definition in ext/hash? Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:06:03 PM, you wrote: Hi! Then again, we

Re: [PHP-DEV] apha3

2008-11-26 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi! On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's one solution, the other is to reqister that stub extension from MINIT of the hash extension and be done (can all be done in hash.c). It was what we decided weeks ago already. I'mm not sure why it is not done

Re: [PHP-DEV] Grafts, Traits, horizontal reuse

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Pinstein
On Nov 24, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Christopher Vogt wrote: Interfaces are helpful in combination with type hinting, but for people who prefer duck typing, it is reasonable to not explicitly define them. It sounds like you are saying that if you prefer duck typing then interfaces have no use.