Hannes Magnusson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 16:32, mathieu.suen mathieu.s...@easyflirt.com wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering why is the token name so incomprehensible ?
Like T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM...
Paamayim Nekudotayim would, at first, seem like a strange choice for
naming a
On 27 Apr 2010, at 08:50, mathieu.suen wrote:
Then T_DOUBLE_COLON would have been perfectly clear.
Honestly, token names in error messages is so '80s.
Instead of fixing internal details, form the users point of view it might be
better to not expose token names at all, but have meaningful parser
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 01:53, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:
kalle Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:53:30 +
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Am 27.04.2010 09:17, schrieb Stefan Marr:
Instead of fixing internal details, form the users point of view it
might be better to not expose token names at all, but have meaningful
parser errors.
... which we want to achieve with the migration from bison to lemon,
right?
--
Sebastian
Hi,
it looks like the fact that ArrayAccess::offsetGet is not returning a
reference is a recurrent problem, I see basically 4 options:
a) Ignore the issue, change nothing
b) Rewrite offsetGet to return a ref, breaking BC
c) Create a new ArrayAccess interface where it does return a ref
d)
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:51, Peter Cowburn petercowb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 April 2010 09:17, Etienne Kneuss col...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
it looks like the fact that ArrayAccess::offsetGet is not returning a
reference is a recurrent problem, I see basically 4 options:
a) Ignore the issue,
+1 for a co-RM of Derick and Kalle
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.netwrote:
Hi
2010/3/24 Lukas Kahwe Smith m...@pooteeweet.org:
Yeah, lets get that clarified. Derick has stepped up and seems quite
committed and nobody seemed to oppose him RMing the next
From the manual:
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM :: ::. Also defined as T_DOUBLE_COLON.
http://php.net/manual/en/tokens.php
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is hardly un-google-able.
- Davey
On Apr 27, 2010, at 2:50 AM, mathieu.suen wrote:
Hannes Magnusson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 16:32,
Stefan Marr wrote:
On 27 Apr 2010, at 08:50, mathieu.suen wrote:
Then T_DOUBLE_COLON would have been perfectly clear.
Honestly, token names in error messages is so '80s.
Instead of fixing internal details, form the users point of view it might be better to not expose token names at
OMG More than 100 token
I am pretty sure that more than 50% are syntactic sugar.
Davey Shafik wrote:
From the manual:
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM :: ::. Also defined as T_DOUBLE_COLON.
http://php.net/manual/en/tokens.php
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is hardly un-google-able.
- Davey
On Apr
You can pry T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM from my cold dead fingers!
On 4/27/10, mathieu.suen mathieu.s...@easyflirt.com wrote:
OMG More than 100 token
I am pretty sure that more than 50% are syntactic sugar.
Davey Shafik wrote:
From the manual:
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM :: ::. Also
+1 for Derick and Kalle, and +1 for alpha by Q4.
On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
+1 for a co-RM of Derick and Kalle
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.netwrote:
Hi
2010/3/24 Lukas Kahwe Smith m...@pooteeweet.org:
Yeah, lets get that
Before even thinking about a planning, we have to define what we want
in and how we go further.
That being said, my vote remains the same as before.
Cheers,
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Gwynne Raskind gwy...@darkrainfall.org wrote:
+1 for Derick and Kalle, and +1 for alpha by Q4.
On Apr
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 17:46 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
Before even thinking about a planning, we have to define what we want
in and how we go further.
ACK, I think it makes sense to define some key features we want for
the next release (traits seem to be one). An issue with 5.3 was that
whenever
Hi,
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 10:17 +0200, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
it looks like the fact that ArrayAccess::offsetGet is not returning a
reference is a recurrent problem, I see basically 4 options:
The main use case is some nested structure like
$o = new ArrayObject();
/*...*/
$o[23][42] = foobar;
-Original Message-
From: Davey Shafik [mailto:da...@php.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:03 AM
To: mathieu.suen
Cc: Hannes Magnusson; PHP internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name
From the manual:
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM :: ::. Also defined as T_DOUBLE_COLON.
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is hardly un-google-able.
If users have to Google it, we've already failed ;)
By the way, the Hebrew name was (at some point) for removal, to be fully
replaced by its alias T_DOUBLE_COLON. With the PHP6 branch being scrapped I
lost track of what happened.
Regards,
+1 For derick and Kalle
2010/4/27 Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net:
Hi
2010/3/24 Lukas Kahwe Smith m...@pooteeweet.org:
Yeah, lets get that clarified. Derick has stepped up and seems quite
committed and nobody seemed to oppose him RMing the next release. In case he
feels he needs
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