Hi!
1. What's missing and should be added?
First thing perhaps ... which IS Pierre's problem ... Windows snapshots
But short of trawling the commit tree ... what HAS already been added?
( links to the CURRENT release notes from the windows site are broken by the
way )
We have NEWS for
Stas Malyshev wrote:
1. What's missing and should be added?
First thing perhaps ... which IS Pierre's problem ... Windows snapshots
But short of trawling the commit tree ... what HAS already been added?
( links to the CURRENT release notes from the windows site are broken
by the way )
We
Currently I am still working my way through the holes in PHP5.3.x which is why
PHP5.2 is STILL the last stable release as far as my ( windows ) customer
sites
are concerned. SO sensible debate on the next step forward IS more important
and
What's wrong with 5.3 on windows (separate topic
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Stas Malyshev wrote:
1. What's missing and should be added?
First thing perhaps ... which IS Pierre's problem ... Windows snapshots
But short of trawling the commit tree ... what HAS already been added?
( links to the
At 04:02 12/08/2010, Josh Davis wrote:
What would be interesting to see is what people think of Derick's
latest proposal allowing both the strict typechecking and the more
sensible weak typing
There's nothing new about it, it's been on the table for around half
a year now. Everyone who
Hi!
A number of extensions were dropped because of the rules applied to building
them. In my case php_interbase is missing, and since Firebird is the only
database I use it's something of a problem. So we simply build it and supply it
from the Firebird site. But other extensions are also still
If there were
only two options left on earth, strict typing and strict+auto-conversion,
I'd vote for going with just strict.
Completely agree. I'm against strict approach, but I would prefer
strict to strict+auto-conversion.
I see a sense in weak typehints. I see a lesser sense in strict. And
2010/8/12 Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com:
At 04:02 12/08/2010, Josh Davis wrote:
What would be interesting to see is what people think of Derick's
latest proposal allowing both the strict typechecking and the more
sensible weak typing
Everyone who opposes strict typing on grounds that it's an
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.comwrote:
Hi!
A number of extensions were dropped because of the rules applied to
building
them. In my case php_interbase is missing, and since Firebird is the only
database I use it's something of a problem. So we simply
2010.08.12 09:59 Lester Caine rašė:
Currently I am still working my way through the holes in PHP5.3.x which
is why
PHP5.2 is STILL the last stable release as far as my ( windows )
customer sites
are concerned. SO sensible debate on the next step forward IS more
important and
What's
(after clarification on what Zeev meant, there was a bit of a follow up
that I'm posting as reply):
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Zeev Suraski wrote:
How is it different from having both options? Given enough time isn't
it exactly the same thing? Argument verification should not be a
customizable
At 10:57 12/08/2010, Daniel Egeberg wrote:
Everyone who opposes strict typing on grounds that it's an alien
feature to PHP(*) doesn't see any advantages in this suggestion
Perhaps if you stopped pretending to know everybody's opinion
Suggest you re-read what I said, you didn't seem to
Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
- setting up a (free) build environment for php on windows is PITA. at
least that was it, when I did last time.
there are multiple how-to, but almost all of them is outdated.
thanks again to Pierre ( http://www.php.net/~pierre/
http://www.php.net/%7Epierre/ ) for manually
Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
But the main point was ... where is the NEWS for all the features added to
trunk? We need the alpha to create the news to decide what needs changing
before releasing.
http://svn.php.net/viewvc/php/php-src/trunk/NEWS?view=markup
Simple example of the problem with
fixed in 5.3.3, see the bug report too.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tomas Kuliavas
to...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
2010.08.12 09:59 Lester Caine rašė:
Currently I am still working my way through the holes in PHP5.3.x which
is why
PHP5.2 is STILL the last stable release as far as
hi,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Ferenc Kovacs i...@tyrael.hu wrote:
And some more.
Pierre mentioned that the firebird extension will be bundled with 5.3.3 but
AFAIK it didn't happened.
There are some info about the missing extensions here:
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46971
Many
Stas Malyshev wrote:
That doesn't make 5.3 unstable though...
Unstable no .. and even php_interbase is perfectly stable on it!
Unusable no ..
A pain because you have to add stuff from various sites which were once all
bundled on php.net ... most definitely yes
A download of PHP5.2.x simply
hi,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
A download of PHP5.2.x simply works out of the box on windows ... currently
some of us have to jump through hoops to create a downloadable windows build
of 5.3 that our customers can use.
The problem is quite
Am 12.08.2010 10:31, schrieb Derick Rethans:
Well, PHP wouldn't support it directly. But it would allow a zend
extension like Xdebug to provide a strict validation function while
debugging and development. Very similar to the overloaded zend_error_cb
and var_dump() function. During
Am 11.08.2010 20:30, schrieb Stas Malyshev:
What do you think?
+1 :-)
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To
Pierre Joye wrote:
A download of PHP5.2.x simply works out of the box on windows ... currently
some of us have to jump through hoops to create a downloadable windows build
of 5.3 that our customers can use.
The problem is quite definitely because of the quagmire of library versions
that
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Ferenc Kovacs i...@tyrael.hu wrote:
And some more.
Pierre mentioned that the firebird extension will be bundled with 5.3.3
but
AFAIK it didn't happened.
There are some
Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I will/have to set up my windows buildbox again, but as far as I can
remember last time when I did (probably a year ago) I run into more than
one problem about dependencies (bison, flex), and there was some
discussion on the mailing list about that there is more than one
On 12 Aug 2010, at 16:04, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
While discussing this via IRC it was suggested to create an
Experimental top-level category on pecl.php.net and put them there. To
me this looks like a good proposal. From there they can easily be picked
up, be extended, provide ideas for
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:57:47 +0100, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.de wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 14:38 +0100, Gustavo Lopes wrote:
I've updated the wiki page for Closures with objects extension with
things that are in Proposal A with modifications but are not
implemented:
Yes, that did it! I was wondering what those SG and EGs are :)
Anyway, the EG(included_files) would not work, because hash values (file
paths) are not stored, only keys. Snippet from Zend/zend.h
...
zend_hash_add(EG(included_files), file_handle-opened_path,
strlen(file_handle-opened_path)+1,
why did this mail end to internals? Please don't cross post or change
lists w/o good reasons :)
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Melanie Rhianna Lewis
cybersp...@php.net wrote:
On 12 Aug 2010, at 16:04, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
While discussing this via IRC it was suggested to create an
On 12.08.2010, at 00:39, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky i...@prohost.org wrote:
Pierre,
With all due respect, there are plenty of things already in trunk to
make it a worth while effort to start planning the 5.4 release. Just
because you disagree, an
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