Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Amaury Bouchard
You are right, we can define __get() in an interface. So, in the end I will shut my mouth. But still, it's not logical. An interface is a contract which defines the capacities of an object. If an interface defines the entry point swim(), we know that an object which implements this interface is

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Bernhard Schussek
Hi Clint, 1) Point taken. 2) The use case can be solved with an object implementing ArrayAccess, but not pragmatically, because then you need a class for *each* bidirectional association. Let me give a short example: Given the class Article with a bidirectional many-to-one relation to Category

RE: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Clint Priest
Hey Amaury, Good points all around, but one last thing to point out, interfaces only declare what *must* be supported by an implementer, properties have no implementation, they just are. Whereas an accessor *has* an implementation. So when you see that an interface has an accessor, you can

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Amaury Bouchard
True. But: 1. The code doesn't reflect that. In my previous example, it's true that I know the Fooable interface details when I write the Bar object. But later, when I'll read the code of this object, nothing tells me that $abc is an accessor an not a property. It could be confusing and

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Nikita Popov
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Clint Priest cpri...@zerocue.com wrote: Alright, here is the updated RFC as per discussions for the last few days: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-as-implemented If you could read it over, make sure I have all of your concerns correctly

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Etienne Kneuss
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Clint Priest cpri...@zerocue.com wrote: Alright, here is the updated RFC as per discussions for the last few days: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-as-implemented If you

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Parallel run-tests

2012-10-14 Thread Nuno Lopes
Hi, Here you have a dump of a run of PHP_HEAD in the gcov machine (almost 13k tests) without valgrind: http://gcov.php.net/~nlopess/dump_PHP_HEAD_z4.txt It was run with -z 4. However, the reported CPU usage is only 213% (instead of ~400%). As you can see in the dump, there are a few

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Jazzer Dane
One of the reasons the current syntax, as seen below, was chosen, is for typehints - yes. public $property { get() { ... } set{TypeHint $value) { ... } } The other reason it was chosen was to specifically get rid of the magic $value that appeared out of thin air. If typehints become

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2

2012-10-14 Thread Etienne Kneuss
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Jazzer Dane tbprogram...@gmail.com wrote: One of the reasons the current syntax, as seen below, was chosen, is for typehints - yes. public $property { get() { ... } set{TypeHint $value) { ... } } The other reason it was chosen was to specifically get