Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Thomas Hruska
On 9/29/2014 8:06 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Thoughts appreciated. Cheers, As the original author of this extension, I only have a few caveats to point out: 1) It has a dependency on POSIX semaphores on non-Windows

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 04:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Thoughts appreciated. What are the actual benefits of this being included in core? The RFC doesn't really list any. Also, there was a discussion in

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 September 2014 04:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Thoughts appreciated. What are the actual benefits of this being included in core?

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Remi Collet wrote: Le 30/09/2014 05:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com a écrit : Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Isn't this extension a bit young to join php core ? I'd say both that, and that the RFC is *very* minimal. THere is no rationale why this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What happened to the 5.6.1 release?

2014-09-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! I wonder if one could replace that release server with a simple vagrant setup or similar so the RM can actually create release archives on his own. I've always packaged 5.4 on my local machine, but it may have

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Sara Golemon
This needs a Why section. Why is this good for PHP? Why will a significant percentage of users be interested in this? Why is it necessary? This feel pretty niche to me. -Sara On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is a new RFC:

RE: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Sharon Levy
From: Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM To: Sharon Levy sle...@pipeline.com Cc: Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com, Derick Rethans der...@php.net, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me, PHP internals internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Fix the title? :) Is it for sync or pecl_http? Someone already fixed that. Isn't this extension a bit young to join php core ? I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. Also, any new functionality introduced to PHP would always be new, young and caring maturity.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Andrey Andreev
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sharon Levy iam4webw...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM To: Sharon Levy sle...@pipeline.com Cc: Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com, Derick Rethans der...@php.net, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me, PHP internals

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 30 Sep 2014, at 20:56, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't this extension a bit young to join php core ? I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. That, in itself, is not necessarily a justification. Unless an awful lot of PHP users need this, it shouldn’t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sharon Levy iam4webw...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM To: Sharon Levy sle...@pipeline.com Cc: Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
What does that even mean? It means that any new functionality that gets into core could be considered young. Like when PHAR got introduced, it was a young extension. Same for PDO, same for FileInfo... What I'm trying to highlight is that being a recently coded extension or not, it's not a good

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 20:31, Sharon Levy iam4webw...@hotmail.com wrote: If more users were educated about PHP's internals, then there could be more substantive discussions between Userland and core contributors, including better ideas originating from Userland. More users might even consider

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2014-09-30 21:59 GMT+02:00 Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net: Well, let's see ... what is the current status quo? Currently, all voters have VCS accounts, meaning that they already are at least one of: a) C code contributors b) documentation contributors c) contributing to the php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix CG(empty_string) init in ZTS: Zend/zend.c

2014-09-30 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi, I took a quick look over the patch. I didn't get why it's named native_tls now, because it doesn't use __thread variables anymore. Actually, now the patch get rid of additional TSRMLS_ arguments, but performs near the same thing as TSRMLS_FETCH() on each module global access. It leads to huge

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 23:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote: And anyone with a wiki account can vote too, meaning everyone who wrote an RFC can in theory vote on anything, take for example fabpot, who does not have an VCS account but can vote still because he have a wiki account,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Andrey Andreev
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 September 2014 23:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote: And anyone with a wiki account can vote too, meaning everyone who wrote an RFC can in theory vote on anything, take for example fabpot, who does not have an VCS

[PHP-DEV] Re: Remove generated lexers from git?

2014-09-30 Thread Nikita Popov
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote: Hi internals! Currently our git repo contains files like zend_language_scanner.c, zend_ini_scanner.c, etc which are files generated by re2c. Historically these files have been included because re2c was not readily

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix CG(empty_string) init in ZTS: Zend/zend.c

2014-09-30 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Dmtry, thanks for taking a look at this. On Wed, October 1, 2014 00:09, Dmitry Stogov wrote: Hi, I took a quick look over the patch. I didn't get why it's named native_tls now, because it doesn't use __thread variables anymore. I was wondering myself but now I see (intentionally taking

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Remove alternative PHP tags

2014-09-30 Thread Pascal MARTIN
On 24/09/2014 20:13, Nikita Popov wrote: The vote for removal of alternative PHP opening/closing tags in PHP 7 is now open: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/remove_alternative_php_tags#vote Hi! We've talked about this RFC with several other members of AFUP (French UG), and we pretty much all