[PHP-DEV] Personal working styles ...

2014-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
Many of you will just switch off because it's me spouting off again, but hopefully some of you will listen ... The current discussion on http response objects and other aspects of the transmission process has brought out a few more 'what the ...' from some of you and as with a lot of the 'modern'

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Michael Wallner
On 02 11 2014, at 01:33, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/11/2014 22:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: Perhaps it would be worth ditching any attempts to change setcookie() (just keep it around for backwards-compatibility), and to instead add a new function, function family, or

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Dan Ackroyd
Florian wrote: On the PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/795/ of the setcookie patch to become compliant with the HTTP RFC, There are some facts: - the current way does not follow the HTTP RFC. Please stop saying this, it isn't true. From rfc6265: Servers SHOULD NOT include more than one

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Dan Ackroyd
Andrea wrote: Perhaps it would be worth ditching any attempts to change setcookie() (just keep it around for backwards-compatibility), and to instead add a new function, function family, or indeed class for cookie handling. Thoughts? Any idea what such an API might look like? I think this API

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Rowan Collins
On 2 November 2014 13:49:15 GMT, Dan Ackroyd dan...@basereality.com wrote: Andrea wrote: Perhaps it would be worth ditching any attempts to change setcookie() (just keep it around for backwards-compatibility), and to instead add a new function, function family, or indeed class for cookie handling.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Personal working styles ...

2014-11-02 Thread Rowan Collins
On 02/11/2014 09:46, Lester Caine wrote: The current discussion on http response objects and other aspects of the transmission process has brought out a few more 'what the ...' from some of you and as with a lot of the 'modern' discussions, the reasons for wanting something tend to be wrapped in

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! The behaviour of PHP is ABSOLUTELY in compliance with the RFC 6265. Setting two headers may not follow best practice but it is conformant, and it is only doing what the users PHP script told it to do. I think I agree here - we're providing a low level API, and if somebody uses this API in

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] GitHub Pull Requests Triage Team

2014-11-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! Slightly off-topic, but how about the same thing for bugs.php.net and patches? I'd say this would be excellent - somebody contributing time to triage the bugs on bugs.php.net and separating I made a typo but I'm sure it's PHP's fault from I discovered a major case of broken but nobody

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] GitHub Pull Requests Triage Team

2014-11-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! I would like to propose the creation of a team to triage the pull requests on GitHub, to help ensure that the pull requests are handled in a timely manner. I am also volunteering to lead such a team, should the RFC be approved. I've read the proposal, and the idea of labeling the PRs and

Re: [PHP-DEV] setcookie() minor BC break - fixes issue #67736

2014-11-02 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On 2 November 2014 15:10, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, what does session handling have to do with any of this? Sorry, I completely failed to write what I was trying to say there. I meant that like the session handling functions and setcookie are similar in that: * They

Re: [PHP-DEV] New Standardized HTTP Interface

2014-11-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! Also, removing $_GET and $_POST is a *massive* backwards-compatibility break. I would vote against this proposal and I hope everyone else will join me in doing so, for that reason alone. I think removing $_* is a no go and even discussing it is kind of pointless unless somebody wants to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Access to aliases definition by reflection

2014-11-02 Thread Pierre Joye
On Oct 31, 2014 11:48 PM, Miloslav Hůla miloslav.h...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Levi, that using FQN in annotations works. And I wrote reasons why it is wrong. Moreover, IDEs works with aliases in annotations well. The only missing fragment is, that you cannot access aliases definitions in