Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.0.0 final has been released!

2015-12-03 Thread Daniel Persson
I would also like to thank all participants for a great work on this new version. Just as a testament about how much better this version is: When we recently discussed what framework if any to use for data manipulation we did benchmarks for both PHP5 and PHP7. The test differed a lot in PHP5. All

Re: [PHP-DEV] ext/openssl needs to be fixed in 7.1

2015-12-03 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote: > Hi internals, > > Compare https://3v4l.org/JW5lp with https://3v4l.org/mdEkO > > Why doesn't GCM work? Can it be fixed? > You are probably referring to this feature request: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=67304 I have been slowly

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Howard
I asked the same question. Congratulations on successfully releasing 7.0 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > Never mind. It returned. Congratulations everyone! > > Congratulations to us all and many thanks to those who worked tirelessly > to make it happen and

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Howard
Disregard. I now see that a completed build was released. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Adam Howard wrote: > With the holiday season quickly approaching and with more developers > taking time off as a result, I would like to again propose (suggest) that > January 2016 release maybe more appro

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Howard
With the holiday season quickly approaching and with more developers taking time off as a result, I would like to again propose (suggest) that January 2016 release maybe more appropriate. I would not wish for PHP development to rush to release and I feel it would give everyone more time to review

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! >> Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? Windows as a platform is different from Linux/Mac in several aspects: in how easy it is to obtain binary (without php.net ones), how easy it is to build one and how easy it is to an average user of the platform to do that (building

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Never mind. It returned. Congratulations everyone! Congratulations to us all and many thanks to those who worked tirelessly to make it happen and produce the best PHP version yet! -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe

[PHP-DEV] ext/openssl needs to be fixed in 7.1

2015-12-03 Thread Scott Arciszewski
Hi internals, Compare https://3v4l.org/JW5lp with https://3v4l.org/mdEkO Why doesn't GCM work? Can it be fixed? Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
Niklas Keller in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:58:18 +0100): >Yes, releases have been repackaged, see >https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-December/51.html Anyway, I got it to build and all tests passed. So did Anatol, I presume. And the subversion tests with this relea

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Harvey
On 3 December 2015 at 13:49, Niklas Keller wrote: > Yes, but it's missing an usort($releases, function($a, $b) { return > version_compare($a["version"], $b["version]); }); ;-) I'm *cough* sure I don't know what you're *cough* talking about... Adam PS: https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/4ec6

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Niklas Keller
2015-12-03 22:22 GMT+01:00 Ferenc Kovacs : > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: > >> It still seems to be missing from the download section in the right >> sidebar. >> >> Anyway, thanks everyone! >> > > should be fixed now: > http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=blobdiff;f=i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.0.0 final has been released!

2015-12-03 Thread Ryan Pallas
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > a...@php.net in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:46:00 +0100): > >Congratulations everyone to this spectacular day for the PHP world! > >Grateful thanks to all the contributors and supporters! > > I want to congratulate everyone for this and

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: > It still seems to be missing from the download section in the right > sidebar. > > Anyway, thanks everyone! > should be fixed now: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=blobdiff;f=index.php;h=4013d0d270662bc3be7a2a5ab6c1a335fe5d8fe7;hp=f72091

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 12/03/2015 12:58 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: > Yes, releases have been repackaged, > see > https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-December/51.html Ah, I misread. I thought you meant our php-7.0.0 tarball was a failed release. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sig

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Niklas Keller
It still seems to be missing from the download section in the right sidebar. Anyway, thanks everyone! 2015-12-03 21:35 GMT+01:00 Carlos Buenosvinos Zamora < carlos.buenosvi...@gmail.com>: > Congrats to everyone. Thanks for such an amazing work! I'm really proud to > be in such a great community.

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.0.0 final has been released!

2015-12-03 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
a...@php.net in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:46:00 +0100): >Congratulations everyone to this spectacular day for the PHP world! >Grateful thanks to all the contributors and supporters! Special congrats for the RM's. Now it is time for the red wine! -- Jan -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Dev

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Niklas Keller
Yes, releases have been repackaged, see https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-December/51.html Regards, Niklas 2015-12-03 21:47 GMT+01:00 Rasmus Lerdorf : > On 12/03/2015 09:39 AM, Niklas Keller wrote: > > Jan Ehrhardt schrieb am Do., 3. Dez. 2015 17:04: > > > > Ferenc Kov

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 12/03/2015 09:39 AM, Niklas Keller wrote: > Jan Ehrhardt schrieb am Do., 3. Dez. 2015 17:04: > > Ferenc Kovacs in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:27:36 +0100): >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann >> wrote: >> >>> Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: We, PHP, a

[PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final has been released!

2015-12-03 Thread ab
Hi, The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP 7.0.0. This release marks the start of the new major PHP 7 series. A separate release announcement is also available: http://php.net/releases/7_0_0.php For source downloads of PHP 7.0.0 please visit our downloads page: http

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
Niklas Keller in php.internals (Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:39:35 +): >Seems like a failed release, make test doesn't work for OpenSSL 1.0.2e. >Heared other people have other issues on 1.0.1 as well. On Windows you don't do 'make test', you do N:\OpensslVC14.x64\openssl>nmake -f ms\ntdll.mak test ...

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Carlos Buenosvinos Zamora
Congrats to everyone. Thanks for such an amazing work! I'm really proud to be in such a great community. Keep the rhythm! 2015-12-03 21:30 GMT+01:00 Rasmus Lerdorf : > On 12/03/2015 12:28 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > What just happened? It was on php.net and now it's gone? > > It's there. Did you

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 12/03/2015 12:28 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > What just happened? It was on php.net and now it's gone? It's there. Did you get geo-dns'ed to a different www.php.net perhaps? The mirrors are still updating. -Rasmus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
Never mind. It returned. Congratulations everyone! Amazing accomplishment. The Web is going to speed up 2x! Everyone here has made a huge impact. Thanks to the RMs. Thanks to Dmitry for leading such an amazing effort on the performance front. Andi On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andi Gutmans

[PHP-DEV] PHP 7 ?! :)

2015-12-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
What just happened? It was on php.net and now it's gone?

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Niklas Keller
Jan Ehrhardt schrieb am Do., 3. Dez. 2015 17:04: Ferenc Kovacs in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:27:36 +0100): >On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann >wrote: > >> Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: >> > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. >> >> Well said. But why, th

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Rowan Collins
Pascal KISSIAN wrote on 03/12/2015 13:30: My main concern is about which php version will be included in the next Ubuntu 16.04 LTS! I wouldn't be surprised if most distros, whenever they add it to their primary package repo, will package php7 separately from php5, and allow them to be select

Re: [PHP-DEV] PCS (PHP Code Service)

2015-12-03 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
Hi Francois, On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:44 PM, François Laupretre wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to open a discussion about a new PHP extension named PCS. > > PCS stands for 'PHP Code Service' and it is (yet) another way to mix C and > PHP code in extensions. > > Some months ago (January 2015), we had

[PHP-DEV] Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2015-12-03

2015-12-03 Thread lp_benchmark_robot
Results for project PHP master, build date 2015-12-03 17:36:09+02:00 commit: 4dc996f74d2c0e1e7970125fa5119b3e13d23701 revision date: 2015-12-02 19:34:13+02:00 environment:Haswell-EP cpu:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz 2x18 cores, stepping 2, LLC 45 MB mem

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Christian Wenz
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? I guess because it helps adoption massively, at least it did in the past. I still remember PHP 3.0.18 which did not have a Windows b

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 3, 2015 10:27 PM, "Ferenc Kovacs" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann > wrote: > > > Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: > > > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. > > > > Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? > > > > -- > > PHP Inte

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 3, 2015 10:18 PM, "Sebastian Bergmann" wrote: > > Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: > > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. > > Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? I am sure I can find many mails, private or public, where you, as one out of many, asked

Re: [PHP-DEV] Remove get_browser() from core

2015-12-03 Thread Martin Keckeis
2015-12-03 14:38 GMT+01:00 Pierre Joye : > > On Dec 3, 2015 8:32 PM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > > > > > > On 2 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 9:52, Martin Keckeis > wrote: > > > > > > Hello together, > > > > > > i think it's time to deprecate the function get_browser(). > > > > > > > +1. Would be nice if we cou

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Class Constant Visibility

2015-12-03 Thread Dmitry Stogov
OK. thanks. I'll try to find time to do this on next week. In any case I'll give a chance to review the future patch. Somebody might get other good improvement ideas and we don't have to hurry now :) Thanks. Dmitry. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Sean DuBois wrote: > Hi Dmitry! > Thanks for th

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
Ferenc Kovacs in php.internals (Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:27:36 +0100): >On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann >wrote: > >> Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: >> > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. >> >> Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? > >loaded quest

[PHP-DEV] Re: Something|null return type declaration

2015-12-03 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Tom, Tom Worster wrote: Not being a regular on this list, I want to ask if there is history of discussion of a "something or nul" return type declaration for PHP 7. Yes. In fact there are currently two RFCs proposing different approaches for this, if you look at the wiki: - http://wiki.p

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Lior Kaplan
They just released: https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-December/49.html Kaplan On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Is there an update on the OpenSSL front...? > Is this release of OpenSSL going to be binary compatible or just source > compatible? >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Class Constant Visibility

2015-12-03 Thread Sean DuBois
Hi Dmitry! Thanks for the quickly reply. That is a bummer that the patch isn't gonna work! But yes, please go ahead and take it on! You don't have to show me the PR (I am happy with what ever you choose to do). There are some tests so once every passes I will be excited to see it merge :) On Thu,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Something|null return type declaration

2015-12-03 Thread Ben Scholzen 'DASPRiD'
On 03.12.2015 15:58, Tom Worster wrote: Not being a regular on this list, I want to ask if there is history of discussion of a "something or nul" return type declaration for PHP 7. I'm only interested in this narrowly defined change, the PHP equivalent of a `/** @return Something|null */` dockbl

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pascal KISSIAN
-Message d'origine- De : julienpa...@gmail.com [mailto:julienpa...@gmail.com] De la part de Julien Pauli Envoyé : jeudi 3 décembre 2015 16:11 >And remember if you don't agree with your actual package maintainers >decisions, you still can switch distro. >Julien.Pauli It is not always you

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: > > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. > > Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Julien Pauli
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:13 PM, François Laupretre > wrote: > >> >> >> Le 03/12/2015 11:17, Pierre Joye a écrit : >> >>> The releases must be kept on hold until these binaries (and other are >>> done in the same time btw) are validated. See

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 03.12.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Julien Pauli: > We, PHP, are not distros maintainers. Well said. But why, then, do we provide Windows binaries? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
Is there an update on the OpenSSL front...? Is this release of OpenSSL going to be binary compatible or just source compatible?

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Julien Pauli
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Pascal KISSIAN wrote: >>I'm just not sure why the release process has to be discussed right at the > >>moment and why you ask me to throw away everything how it is being done in > >>that release process that is not defined by me but proven to bring success > >>and i

[PHP-DEV] Something|null return type declaration

2015-12-03 Thread Tom Worster
Not being a regular on this list, I want to ask if there is history of discussion of a "something or nul" return type declaration for PHP 7. I'm only interested in this narrowly defined change, the PHP equivalent of a `/** @return Something|null */` dockblock tag *without* generalizing to `/** @re

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Remove get_browser() from core

2015-12-03 Thread Björn Larsson
Den 2015-12-03 kl. 13:44, skrev Martin Keckeis: 2015-12-02 21:02 GMT+01:00 Andrea Faulds : Hi Martin, Martin Keckeis wrote: i think it's time to deprecate the function get_browser(). The reason is simple: Since the browscap.ini file has grown a lot this function does need way too much time,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Remove get_browser() from core

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 3, 2015 8:32 PM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > > > On 2 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 9:52, Martin Keckeis wrote: > > > > Hello together, > > > > i think it's time to deprecate the function get_browser(). > > > > +1. Would be nice if we could point to a recommended alternative in the deprecation message. +

Re: [PHP-DEV] Remove get_browser() from core

2015-12-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
> On 2 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 9:52, Martin Keckeis wrote: > > Hello together, > > i think it's time to deprecate the function get_browser(). > +1. Would be nice if we could point to a recommended alternative in the deprecation message. Zeev -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List T

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pascal KISSIAN
>I'm just not sure why the release process has to be discussed right at the >moment and why you ask me to throw away everything how it is being done in >that release process that is not defined by me but proven to bring success >and is being done for long time. If you have concerns and suggestio

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
> What I just wanted to say by the temperature is that I'm as human as > anyone > else and hopefully allowed to hype not less than anyone else. However > there are always people who celebrate and people who serve, those who > serve have to keep the cold head. I'm serving, that's it. Hope this > exp

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Zeev, > -Original Message- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 1:09 PM > To: Anatol Belski > Cc: Sebastian Bergmann ; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > > My red wine is already cooling for two days

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Remove get_browser() from core

2015-12-03 Thread Martin Keckeis
2015-12-02 21:02 GMT+01:00 Andrea Faulds : > Hi Martin, > > Martin Keckeis wrote: > >> i think it's time to deprecate the function get_browser(). >> >> The reason is simple: Since the browscap.ini file has grown a lot this >> function does need way too much time, see here for example >> >> http://

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 3, 2015 6:51 PM, "François Laupretre" wrote: > > Le 03/12/2015 12:28, Pierre Joye a écrit : >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >>> >>> Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found iss

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 2:25 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Anatol Belski; Sebastian Bergmann; PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Zeev Suraski

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > My red wine is already cooling for two days, your preferential drink for > > sure, > > too. The moment is big. But how human it wants ever to be, it is hardly > > applicable to the the job of delivering a release, even today. We should > > n

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Andrey Hristov
Hi, guys, just go out and say to the public, that due to Openssl security fixes which are awaited and thus because we want to ensure that 7.0.0. will be correctly working with it, we won't release 7.0.0 even as source until we are sure the QA procedure is gone. PHP can get really good bashin

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:13 PM, François Laupretre wrote: > > > Le 03/12/2015 11:17, Pierre Joye a écrit : > >> The releases must be kept on hold until these binaries (and other are >> done in the same time btw) are validated. See it as part of the QA. As Remi >> mentioned, many issues have be c

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
> My red wine is already cooling for two days, your preferential drink for > sure, > too. The moment is big. But how human it wants ever to be, it is hardly > applicable to the the job of delivering a release, even today. We should > not > let us to hype but do a solid delivery with everything that

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, François Laupretre wrote: > Le 03/12/2015 12:28, Pierre Joye a écrit : > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Bergmann > > wrote: > > > Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: > > > > In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found > > > > issues. We

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread François Laupretre
Le 03/12/2015 12:28, Pierre Joye a écrit : On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found issues. We patch the sources to fix them and make everything work together smoothly.

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Sebastian, > -Original Message- > From: Sebastian Bergmann [mailto:sebast...@php.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:59 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > Am 03.12.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Anatol Belski: > > IMHO offering a secur

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Niklas Keller
QA and ready builds are important, but why is it tagged after all if it might be retagged if any issues occur? Why isn't it frozen to a specific commit but not tagged (via a public pushed tag) until everything is ready? I understand that people really want PHP 7, but let's get it out professionall

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: >> In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found >> issues. We patch the sources to fix them and make everything work >> together smoothly. > > Are you suggesting that PHP 7.0

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: > In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found > issues. We patch the sources to fix them and make everything work > together smoothly. Are you suggesting that PHP 7.0.0 will be changed, re-tagged, and then released without a new rel

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread François Laupretre
Le 03/12/2015 11:17, Pierre Joye a écrit : The releases must be kept on hold until these binaries (and other are done in the same time btw) are validated. See it as part of the QA. As Remi mentioned, many issues have be caught during this process. If it was only about delivering binaries, a d

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Am 03.12.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Anatol Belski: >> IMHO offering a secure release which also fits with users expectations > > I would agree if this were about the release itself, PHP's sourcecode. > It is not. It is about a binary. But I

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread François Laupretre
Le 03/12/2015 09:55, Zeev Suraski a écrit : Releasing it now would mean most of the world gets to actually celebrate it on Dec 3rd, instead of turning it into a frustrating waiting day. I find it hard to imagine people having an issue with us saying the Windows binaries would be coming soon. Th

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Björn Larsson
Den 2015-12-03 kl. 11:44, skrev Anatol Belski: Hi Zeev, -Original Message- From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com] Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:55 AM To: Anatol Belski Cc: Sebastian Bergmann ; internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay On 3 בדצמ

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 03.12.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Anatol Belski: > IMHO offering a secure release which also fits with users expectations I would agree if this were about the release itself, PHP's sourcecode. It is not. It is about a binary. But I will shut up now. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mail

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Sebastian, > -Original Message- > From: Sebastian Bergmann [mailto:sebast...@php.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:39 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > Am 03.12.2015 um 09:26 schrieb Anatol Belski: > > No one was talking abo

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Zeev, > -Original Message- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:55 AM > To: Anatol Belski > Cc: Sebastian Bergmann ; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > > > On 3 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 10:09, Anatol Belski

[PHP-DEV] PHP COM Array of VARIANT as out parameter

2015-12-03 Thread Alejandro Gonzalez
Dear All, I'm trying to use a COM dll function like that: HRESULT Reader::QueryData(out, ref] float * p1, [out, ref] float * p2, [out, ref] VARIANT * pData) PHP code: $p1 = 0.0; $p2 = 0.0; //$p3 = []; //$p3 = array(); //$p3 = new VARIANT(); //$p3 = new VARIANT([], VT_VARIANT|VT

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Zeev, On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> On 3 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 10:09, Anatol Belski wrote: >> >> I would just ask for some patience, as mentioned before - today by UTC the >> announcement is going out. It is still December 3rd as planned. That's why I >> was sending the aw

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 3, 2015 1:58 PM, "Remi Collet" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le 03/12/2015 06:51, Sebastian Bergmann a écrit : > > Am 02.12.2015 um 09:42 schrieb Anatol Belski: > >>> Do the Windows builds have to be available immediately when > >>> the sources of PHP 7.0.0

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Class Constant Visibility

2015-12-03 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Sean, Although the RFC is accepted, the patch has to be significantly reworked. Probably, it's going to be better and faster if I do it myself. Let me know, if you are agree (I'll do this when I have time, and show you PR before commit). Thanks. Dmitry. On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Sean D

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
> On 3 בדצמ׳ 2015, at 10:09, Anatol Belski wrote: > > I would just ask for some patience, as mentioned before - today by UTC the > announcement is going out. It is still December 3rd as planned. That's why I > was sending the awareness about the late UTC afternoon today. > Anatol, We're not

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 03.12.2015 um 09:26 schrieb Anatol Belski: > No one was talking about a "blocker", everything looks good for today. A > blocker colud be a critical issue, which by chance are often discovered > short before release by the suspects you mentioned. No such issues are known > ATM. The decision to

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Andi, > -Original Message- > From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:a...@zend.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:43 AM > To: Sebastian Bergmann > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > > > On Dec 2, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Jan, > -Original Message- > From: Jan Ehrhardt [mailto:php...@ehrhardt.nl] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 1:53 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > "Anatol Belski" in php.internals (Wed, 2 Dec 2015 23:04:52 +0100): > > OpenSSL is r

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

2015-12-03 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Sebastian, > -Original Message- > From: Sebastian Bergmann [mailto:sebast...@php.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:51 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay > > Am 02.12.2015 um 09:42 schrieb Anatol Belski: > >> Do the Windows builds