That's a good point, maybe a compromise is this:
Matthew Brown hat am 28. August 2019 um 18:21
> geschrieben:
>
>
> FWIW: all the runtime notices in our codebase come from internally-created
> code.
>
> Requiring declare(strict_variables=1) to get this (better) behaviour punishes
> future
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 02:31, Larry Garfield wrote:
> [..]
> Whether editions is the "right" way to balance "don't break 1 million lines
> of 15 year old code" with "this behavior is bad and we all know it" and with
> "this behavior leads to sloppy code that is prone to bugs", I don't know.
>
Some clarifications before I get crucified:
> "editions" (the way I imagine)
I don't want to misrepresent Nikita. His idea of editions might be
completely different.
> If "editions" (the way I imagine) had been introduced prior to PHP 7, we
> might now have a PHP 7 engine that would still
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 03:40, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
>
> Am 30.08.19 um 20:56 schrieb Andreas Hennings:
> > In one of -these modules I initially used the ?? null coalesce operator.
> > Then I had to replace all of the instances of ?? with the more verbose
> > old-school code, to make it
(I hope this exchange is not getting too Drupal-specific.
I imagine the same concerns would apply in any project that uses a lot
of 3rd party code, and that is affected by framework versions and
generations of framework ecosystems.)
> Someone running their code on an old and unsupported PHP
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Andreas Hennings wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 19:38, Chase Peeler wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:39 PM Andreas Hennings
> > wrote:
> > > The only way to make this possible is to either deny all progress, or
> > > to make a distinction on file level (or
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 19:38, Chase Peeler wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:39 PM Andreas Hennings
> wrote:
> > The only way to make this possible is to either deny all progress, or
> > to make a distinction on file level (or "package level", whatever that
> > means).
> > So, opt-in BC
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:39 PM Andreas Hennings
wrote:
> I would very much like to see "editions" or "generations".
>
> The only way to make this possible is to either deny all progress, or
> to make a distinction on file level (or "package level", whatever that
> means).
> So, opt-in BC
I would very much like to see "editions" or "generations".
> I do plan to create an RFC on this topic.
I am looking forward to this Proposal from Nikita.
So, at the risk of repeating some ideas that Nikita already mentioned
elsewhere, I am sharing my own thoughts..
## Motivation
In this
Hello,
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 13:51, G. P. B. wrote:
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> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 11:45, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 30 Aug 2019, at 12:33, Nikita Popov wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi internals,
> > >
> > > Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> > > that is
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 11:45, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > On 30 Aug 2019, at 12:33, Nikita Popov wrote:
> >
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> > that is particularly annoying about the undefined variable case is that
> our
> >
+1
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 11:13 AM Javier Spagnoletti wrote:
> Great step! +1
> Thank you so much Nikita.
>
> El vie., 30 de ago. de 2019 07:02, Arvids Godjuks <
> arvids.godj...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
> > пт, 30 авг. 2019 г. в 11:33, Nikita Popov :
> >
> > > Hi internals,
> > >
> > > Relating
Great step! +1
Thank you so much Nikita.
El vie., 30 de ago. de 2019 07:02, Arvids Godjuks
escribió:
> пт, 30 авг. 2019 г. в 11:33, Nikita Popov :
>
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> > that is particularly annoying about the
пт, 30 авг. 2019 г. в 11:33, Nikita Popov :
> Hi internals,
>
> Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> that is particularly annoying about the undefined variable case is that our
> default error_reporting level (without a php.ini) does not include
> E_NOTICE.
> On 30 Aug 2019, at 12:33, Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> Hi internals,
>
> Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> that is particularly annoying about the undefined variable case is that our
> default error_reporting level (without a php.ini) does not include
> On 30 Aug 2019, at 12:33, Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> Hi internals,
>
> Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
> that is particularly annoying about the undefined variable case is that our
> default error_reporting level (without a php.ini) does not include
Hi internals,
Relating to the recent discussions on undefined variables & co. One thing
that is particularly annoying about the undefined variable case is that our
default error_reporting level (without a php.ini) does not include E_NOTICE.
Thankfully distros do tend to have more reasonable
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