Re: [PHP-DEV] Bump minimal OpenSSL version to 1.0.2 in PHP 8.0

2020-08-14 Thread Levi Morrison via internals
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 4:36 PM Gabriel Caruso wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in PHP > > 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be supported by any major distro (think that RHEL > > switched to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bump minimal OpenSSL version to 1.0.2 in PHP 8.0

2020-08-14 Thread Gabriel Caruso
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > Hi, > > Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in PHP > 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be supported by any major distro (think that RHEL > switched to 1.0.2 in 7.4 and not aware about another distro that would > still su

[PHP-DEV] Bump minimal OpenSSL version to 1.0.2 in PHP 8.0

2020-08-14 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in PHP 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be supported by any major distro (think that RHEL switched to 1.0.2 in 7.4 and not aware about another distro that would still support 1.0.1). Please shout if you have any concerns. Cheers J

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Theodore Brown
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote: > > > > Derick and Benjamin (and Sara), are these requests reasonable? If > > > the RFC follows the discussion period rule and contains all the > > > relevant information, I will be much more confide

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote: > Derick was trying to be good and meet my beta3 deadline. And I even got that date wrong by a week. Oops. > Fortunately, I gave him that deadline (while thinking RC1) knowing > some kind of bullshit like this would come up and LO AND BEHOLD here > we a

[PHP-DEV] Proposal: Add PDO::checkLiveness method

2020-08-14 Thread Eric Norris
Hey internals, I've submitted https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5935 as a way to expose an underlying PDO driver's check_liveness function to userland scripts. Often advice given on the internet is to issue a no-op statement (e.g. SELECT 1 FROM dual), but this adds potentially unnecessary overhe

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Theodore Brown
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 9:48 AM Sara Golemon wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:22 AM Theodore Brown wrote: > > I was very surprised that it went to vote less than six days after > > the discussion period started, right after the weekend no less, > > before I had a chance to submit my patch to i

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] Better string interpolation

2020-08-14 Thread Ilija Tovilo
Hi internals I've been thinking about ways to improve string interpolation. String interpolation in PHP is currently pretty limited to say the least. What's worse is we have several ways to do the same thing and a few of them being quite inconsistent and confusing. We have these syntaxes: 1. Dir

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Theodore Brown
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 9:16 AM Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:22 PM Theodore Brown wrote: > > There's certainly been a lot of discussion in general about > > attributes. However, there was not a reasonable opportunity to either > > discuss the specific arguments made in thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Sara Golemon
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:22 AM Theodore Brown wrote: > I was very surprised that it went to vote less than six days after > the discussion period started, right after the weekend no less, > before I had a chance to submit my patch to include the @: syntax. > > Yes. Derick fucked up the *letter*

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Joe Ferguson
On 8/14/2020 09:34, Paul M. Jones wrote: (That presumes the need for the RFC even exists, which I submit it does not -- but that's a separate topic.) The most frustrating part of this entire bike shed and devolution into finger pointing of rule breaking could have all been avoided if Inte

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Paul M. Jones
> On Aug 14, 2020, at 09:16, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > What do you mean by defer exactly? Stop voting or reset the vote? We were > thinking of extending the vote until September 1st. For my part, "extending a vote that started too early to let it run longer" is not a reasonable remedy. The

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:22 PM Theodore Brown wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:41 PM Levi Morrison > wrote: > > > > So, a week+ early, then? Surely that means the current vote null > > > and void, to be reset entirely following a proper discussion period > > > -- one without concurrent voting

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Theodore Brown
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:41 PM Levi Morrison wrote: > > So, a week+ early, then? Surely that means the current vote null > > and void, to be reset entirely following a proper discussion period > > -- one without concurrent voting. > > I just want to make sure I understand: there are people who

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-14 Thread Andreas Leathley
On 14.08.20 03:41, Levi Morrison via internals wrote: I just want to make sure I understand: there are people who think we haven't discussed the syntax for attributes yet? I assume this is a serious email, but I can't fathom why anyone cares. We've discussed this subject soo much... I am kind