> On Mar 24, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Levi Morrison via internals
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:02 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>>
>>> As requested, splitting off the short-functions RFC to its own thread.
>>>
>>>
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:15 AM Chase Peeler wrote:
> I guess my one question would be why we didn't support auto-capture when we
> first implemented anonymous functions, and if there was a reason, why does
> that no longer apply?
>
I believe this was the original discussion:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 2:26 PM Mark Randall wrote:
> To give my own example, earlier this week I wrote the following:
>
> $x = function () use ($to, $library, $thread, $author, $title,
> $library_name, $top_post) { ... }
>
> That was just to get those variables inside a callback that could be
>
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:20 AM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> 1) The updated short-functions RFC:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
>
> 2) A new RFC, code by Nuno, for auto-capturing multi-statement closures:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/auto-capture-closure
>
> These are separate RFCs and at
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:40 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> In response to the feedback that the savings in typing volume is small,
> that's true but also not the main point. The main point is to allow and
> encourage functions to be written an in "expression style", that is, as
> actual functions
> On Mar 24, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> On 24/03/2021 21:26, Mark Randall wrote:
>>
>> Automatic capture ceased to be a dramatic change from PHP the day after
>> short closurers were introduced. So they've been a part of PHP for years
>> now.
>
>
> I strongly disagree.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:02 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> > On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >
> > As requested, splitting off the short-functions RFC to its own thread.
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
> >
> > In response to the feedback that the savings in
> On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
>
> As requested, splitting off the short-functions RFC to its own thread.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
>
> In response to the feedback that the savings in typing volume is small,
> that's true but also not the main point.
As requested, splitting off the short-functions RFC to its own thread.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
In response to the feedback that the savings in typing volume is small, that's
true but also not the main point. The main point is to allow and encourage
functions to be written an
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 17:20 Larry Garfield wrote:
> Greetings, Internalians.
>
> Some months back I proposed an RFC for short functions.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
>
> After some discussion, I put it on hold to ensure that it was compatible
> with the other discussion floating
On 24/03/2021 21:26, Mark Randall wrote:
Automatic capture ceased to be a dramatic change from PHP the day
after short closurers were introduced. So they've been a part of PHP
for years now.
I strongly disagree. Short closures say "turn this expression into a
function". You would have to
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:26 PM Mark Randall wrote:
> On 24/03/2021 21:00, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> > As Christian says, automatic capture is a dramatic change to the
> > language's scoping rules, and IMHO requires a more thorough
> > justification on why the current syntax is burdensome. As I've
On 24/03/2021 21:00, Rowan Tommins wrote:
As Christian says, automatic capture is a dramatic change to the
language's scoping rules, and IMHO requires a more thorough
justification on why the current syntax is burdensome. As I've said
previously, my naive impression is that a long list of
On 24/03/2021 17:33, Christian Schneider wrote:
My guess would be that it was seen as one of PHP's big strength that variables
don't just leak into other contexts but that it has to be done explicitly.
Now with arrow functions both the benefit of auto-capturing is bigger compared
to the
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Christian Schneider
wrote:
> Am 24.03.2021 um 18:15 schrieb Chase Peeler :
> > I guess my one question would be why we didn't support auto-capture when
> we
> > first implemented anonymous functions, and if there was a reason, why
> does
> > that no longer apply?
Am 24.03.2021 um 18:15 schrieb Chase Peeler :
> I guess my one question would be why we didn't support auto-capture when we
> first implemented anonymous functions, and if there was a reason, why does
> that no longer apply?
My guess would be that it was seen as one of PHP's big strength that
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:02 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Larry Garfield
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings, Internalians.
> >
> > Some months back I proposed an RFC for short functions.
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
> >
> > After some discussion, I put it
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> Greetings, Internalians.
>
> Some months back I proposed an RFC for short functions.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
>
> After some discussion, I put it on hold to ensure that it was compatible
> with the other discussion
Hello Internals!
My name is Gunnard Engebreth and I am requesting access to edit the
wiki. I am currently interested in being one of the release managers for
PHP 8.1 and would also like to be more involved in the internals
community as a whole. Please reach out to me with any questions.
Greetings, Internalians.
Some months back I proposed an RFC for short functions.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/short-functions
After some discussion, I put it on hold to ensure that it was compatible with
the other discussion floating about around an alternate syntax for multi-line
closures that
> I went ahead and added you just now, but for future reference you can
make
> changes to the line containing your name at any time (remove yourself, add
> links to a statement about why you're awesome, etc...)
@Sara I can't, no permissions :C
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:07 AM Patrick ALLAERT
wrote:
> Then I confirm I'd like to volunteer as well.
>
> Should I add myself to https://wiki.php.net/todo/php81 ?
>
I went ahead and added you just now, but for future reference you can make
changes to the line containing your name at any time
Le mar. 23 mars 2021 à 21:03, Sara Golemon a écrit :
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:44 PM Patrick ALLAERT
> wrote:
> > You mean a veteran RM, not a veteran participant of this ML, right?
> >
>
> Correct. Though I should also note that for the 7.2 release, neither Remi
> nor I had experience. So
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:38 AM Côme Chilliet <
come.chill...@fusiondirectory.org> wrote:
> Le Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:01:40 +0100,
> Nicolas Grekas a écrit :
> > Picking up a loose thread:
> > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/custom_object_serialization introduced a
> > > replacement for Serializable in
Le Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:01:40 +0100,
Nicolas Grekas a écrit :
> Picking up a loose thread:
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/custom_object_serialization introduced a
> > replacement for Serializable in PHP 7.4, so it's time to think about
> > deprecating and removing the old mechanism:
> >
> >
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