Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Property hooks, nee accessors

2023-05-14 Thread Hendra Gunawan
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:38 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > > Ilija Tovilo and I would like to offer another RFC for your consideration. > It's been a while in coming, and we've evolved the design quite a bit just in > the last week so if you saw an earlier draft of it in the past few months, I >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Property hooks, nee accessors

2023-05-14 Thread Hendra Gunawan
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:38 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > > Ilija Tovilo and I would like to offer another RFC for your consideration. > It's been a while in coming, and we've evolved the design quite a bit just in > the last week so if you saw an earlier draft of it in the past few months, I >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Property hooks, nee accessors

2023-05-14 Thread Hendra Gunawan
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:38 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > > Ilija Tovilo and I would like to offer another RFC for your consideration. > It's been a while in coming, and we've evolved the design quite a bit just in > the last week so if you saw an earlier draft of it in the past few months, I >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Please remove the Sicherheitsüberprüfung Security captcha from php.net

2023-05-14 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:59, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote: > > I'm not sure there is an English version at all For me, there is an English version below the German version, Er, and apparently for you also: https://phpimagick.com/deutsche_uber_englisch_2.png > my Accept-Language doesn't mention

Re: [PHP-DEV] Please remove the Sicherheitsüberprüfung Security captcha from php.net

2023-05-14 Thread Hans Henrik Bergan
>a misconfiguration That's my guess too. I Hope the server configuration people get the message. >I think the page is just hard-coded in German and English I'm not sure there is an English version at all - I'm not accessing it from a german IP address (a Norwegain one - actually multiple

Re: [PHP-DEV] Please remove the Sicherheitsüberprüfung Security captcha from php.net

2023-05-14 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 14 May 2023 21:48:51 BST, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote: >fwiw for those of you lucky enough to not get the captcha page, it >looks like https://i.imgur.com/l9YbIz5.png I'd never seen it before, but saw it just now when looking for mirror information. My guess is that either there's a

[PHP-DEV] Please remove the Sicherheitsüberprüfung Security captcha from php.net

2023-05-14 Thread Hans Henrik Bergan
multiple times per week now, i get this Security Sicherheitsüberprüfung captcha page when visiting php.net and it's really annoying to solve that captcha multiple times per week. "PHP is that annoying language where you have to solve captchas just to read the documentation" is not the experience

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] nameof

2023-05-14 Thread Robert Landers
> Conversely, namespace imports are entirely local to the current file (or even > a namespace{} block), and it's almost impossible for running code to see > anything other than the expanded name. > > That doesn't mean that there aren't good reasons to have nameof() handle both > things in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] nameof

2023-05-14 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 14 May 2023 11:59:13 BST, Robert Landers wrote: >As someone who has had limited interaction with the engine code itself >but has been using PHP, daily, for nearly 15 years, I'm not sure this >technical distinction makes sense in the context of programming in >PHP. When using traits, I don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] nameof

2023-05-14 Thread Robert Landers
On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 11:16 AM Rowan Tommins wrote: > > On 13 May 2023 16:40:27 BST, Robert Landers wrote: > > Most of the time, you want the unqualified name > > ... > >This is especially important when using traits and aliases: > > I don't think trait renaming is the same thing as aliasing a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] nameof

2023-05-14 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 13 May 2023 16:40:27 BST, Robert Landers wrote: > Most of the time, you want the unqualified name > ... >This is especially important when using traits and aliases: I don't think trait renaming is the same thing as aliasing a qualified name. In a sense, it's actually the opposite: with a