Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 10:09 PM, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote: >> if a `get` hook for property `$foo` calls method `bar()`, then inside that >> method `$this->foo` will refer to the raw property, both read and write. If >> `bar()` is called from somewhere other than the hook, reading from >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]
On 08/03/2024 15:53, Larry Garfield wrote: Hi folks. Based on earlier discussions, we've made a number of changes to the RFC that should address some of the concerns people raised. We also had some very fruitful discussions off-list with several developers from the Foundation, which led to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [pdo_dblib] Correct TDS protocol version

2024-03-12 Thread Rob Landers
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 17:53, Saki Takamachi wrote: > Hi, > > I posted this just when the mailing list was having some trouble, so I'll add > a reply just in case. > > Regards. > > Saki Instead of creating a BC break (which will probably affect older, less maintained libraries the most),

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 4:53 PM, Alexandru Pătrănescu wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 4:36 PM Larry Garfield wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 8:49 AM, Stephen Reay wrote: >> >> > Hi Larry >> > >> > Thanks again for both of your work on this, I'm really hopeful this >> > passes. >> > >> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Alexandru Pătrănescu
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 4:36 PM Larry Garfield wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 8:49 AM, Stephen Reay wrote: > > > Hi Larry > > > > Thanks again for both of your work on this, I'm really hopeful this > passes. > > > > Was there ever any further discussion/resolution/decision about the use > >

[PHP-DEV] Re: [pdo_dblib] Correct TDS protocol version

2024-03-12 Thread Saki Takamachi
Hi, I posted this just when the mailing list was having some trouble, so I'll add a reply just in case. Regards. Saki

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 8:49 AM, Stephen Reay wrote: > Hi Larry > > Thanks again for both of your work on this, I'm really hopeful this passes. > > Was there ever any further discussion/resolution/decision about the use > an explicit `virtual` keyword, and the related flag for creation of a >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC[ Property accessor hooks, take 2

2024-03-12 Thread Stephen Reay
> On 8 Mar 2024, at 22:53, Larry Garfield wrote: > > Hi folks. Based on earlier discussions, we've made a number of changes to > the RFC that should address some of the concerns people raised. We also had > some very fruitful discussions off-list with several developers from the >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Pre-RFC] Improve language coherence for the behaviour of offsets and containers

2024-03-12 Thread Rob Landers
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 02:36, Gina P. Banyard wrote: > On Monday, 11 March 2024 at 16:11, Larry Garfield > wrote: > > > > > Woof. That's my kind of RFC. :-) The extensive background helps a lot, > > thank you. > > > > I am generally in favor of this, and have wanted more fine-grained >