Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: Ferenc, all, The RFC has provisions for making the 3rd and 4th milestones move as needed: “It's worth noting that the 3rd and 4th milestones will be quality dependent. If we have evidence that suggests that PHP 7 isn't

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/11/14 09:14, Pierre Joye wrote: That's why I strongly suggest to make a more realistic time plan and stick to it. Specific dates can or should be define later but the period (mid october f.e.) should be defined now. One week more when it is about fixing one last critical bug for an

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Kris Craig
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 22/11/14 09:14, Pierre Joye wrote: That's why I strongly suggest to make a more realistic time plan and stick to it. Specific dates can or should be define later but the period (mid october f.e.) should be defined

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote Cast your vote! Zeev

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Joe Watkins
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 10:07 +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote Cast your vote! Zeev Morning Zeev, Proposed

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Kris Craig
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Joe Watkins pthre...@pthreads.org wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 10:07 +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote Cast your vote! Zeev Hi, could you update the timeline

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
Kris, This existed in the RFC since the get go and I don't believe anybody raised any concerns about it. There was plenty of time for discussion. Either way approval of this RFC won't have any effect on the approval or rejection of other RFCs. Kris, All - I'm now on a 7th day straight of a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Levi Morrison
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening: Given how long it has been since there was any activity on this topic, I wish that you had issued a pre-vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Adam Harvey
On 21 November 2014 07:36, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: In this case the 3 month period will be too short imo. We release RCs/betas every two weeks, so 3 months would be about 6 release. 5.6.0 had 3 alpha, 4 beta and 4 rc before release. 5.5.0 had 6 alpha, 4 beta and 3 rc before

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Kris Craig
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: Kris, This existed in the RFC since the get go and I don't believe anybody raised any concerns about it. There was plenty of time for discussion. Either way approval of this RFC won't have any effect on the approval or

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
-Original Message- From: morrison.l...@gmail.com [mailto:morrison.l...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Levi Morrison Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:48 PM To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline The timeline for Line up any remaining RFCs

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
Ferenc, all, The RFC has provisions for making the 3rd and 4th milestones move as needed: “It's worth noting that the 3rd and 4th milestones will be quality dependent. If we have evidence that suggests that PHP 7 isn't sufficiently mature to go into the RC stage in June, or GA in October -