Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, J. Adams wrote: I agree. VBulletin rules. It also permits voluntary participation rather than getting every email for ever conversation. Should you prefer to get everything via email, I believe it is possible to sync VBulletin with a mailing list. If everybody would just

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Kris Craig
To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list? Yahav Gindi Bar in php.internals (Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:18:12 +0300): I may sound old fashioned, but what about a forum? I agree that having a forum would have some definite benefits and should be explored further

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, To all readers of this exact thread. No, we won't install a forum on php.net or nowhere else to discuss php.net issues. We have mailing lists, and it works well. We also do IRC discussions and post summaries here from time to time, but that's somehow a personal matter. Please keep focus on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Lester Caine
Clint Priest wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a collaborative wiki with inline-threaded comments... Actually just using the wiki better would work, but it tends to get even more messy without someone moderating everything. I know people don't like my stance, but when one is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Clint Priest wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a collaborative wiki with inline-threaded comments... Actually just using the wiki better would work, but it tends to get even more messy without someone

RE: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Clint Priest
: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:43 AM To: Lester Caine Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list? hi, On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Clint Priest wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a collaborative

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
(sorry if this is a double-post, I finger-fudged pretty hard) Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com writes: hi, To all readers of this exact thread. No, we won't install a forum on php.net or nowhere else to discuss php.net issues. We have mailing lists, and it works well. Just to throw in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Ángel González
On 17/10/12 11:43, Pierre Joye wrote: It is about hi jacking discussions with totally irrelevant topics, repetitive, nonconstructive posts in rows, in all possible ways. The issue is that the proposed solution (a forum) does not solve irrelevant topics being mixed into a discussion about a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jeremiah Dodds jeremiah.do...@gmail.com wrote: That said, it's a little ridiculous to expect people to figure out a new reader or whatever. Luckily, forums are jut a web version of USENET. There are a few existing tools that take a mailing list and mirror it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jeremiah Dodds jeremiah.do...@gmail.com wrote: That said, it's a little ridiculous to expect people to figure out a new reader or whatever. Luckily, forums are jut a web version of USENET. There are a few existing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Maciek Sokolewicz
On 17-10-2012 20:42, Pierre Joye wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jeremiah Dodds jeremiah.do...@gmail.com wrote: That said, it's a little ridiculous to expect people to figure out a new reader or whatever. Luckily, forums are jut a web version of USENET. There are a few existing tools

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Maciek Sokolewicz maciek.sokolew...@gmail.com wrote: NNTP works great! The only pain in the ass is that it's hellishly slow and very very often times out, making the reading of longer threads (like this one) take... ages... Perhaps it could be mirrored / load

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-17 Thread Clint Priest
I was really referring to another tool to collaborate on an RFC document, something where comment threads can be started and replied to from within the context/section of the RFC that the comment belongs to. Ive looked at a few other wikis and some have this capability... Github could be

[PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread Clint Priest
Is it just me or has this Property Accessors chain of emails been impossible to make heads or tails of? People replying within replies within replies, quoting partial emails, cross-posting and all sorts of chaos. Would anyone be willing to entertain an alternative communication method with

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
I may sound old fashioned, but what about a forum? On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Clint Priest cpri...@zerocue.com wrote: Is it just me or has this Property Accessors chain of emails been impossible to make heads or tails of? People replying within replies within replies, quoting partial

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread J. Adams
I agree. VBulletin rules. It also permits voluntary participation rather than getting every email for ever conversation. Should you prefer to get everything via email, I believe it is possible to sync VBulletin with a mailing list. On 10/16/2012 5:18 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: I may sound

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
Personally, I like IP.Board. Put that aside, I thought about PHPBB or another open-source software :) On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:22 AM, J. Adams zardozro...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. VBulletin rules. It also permits voluntary participation rather than getting every email for ever conversation.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
Yahav Gindi Bar in php.internals (Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:18:12 +0300): I may sound old fashioned, but what about a forum? A forum is new fashioned. I am reading and writing this on news.php.net. Webinterface: http://news.php.net/php.internals But you'd better use a proper newsreader. Some browsers

RE: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list?

2012-10-16 Thread Clint Priest
I was thinking more along the lines of a collaborative wiki with inline-threaded comments... -Original Message- From: Jan Ehrhardt [mailto:php...@ehrhardt.nl] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:00 PM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list