On Fri, January 11, 2008 4:13 pm, Sam Barrow wrote:
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:52 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote:
On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary.
However, it
is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:52 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote:
On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it
is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of whoever
cares to vote on technical questions.
Which
Hello Sam,
and here goes the problem, some people here understand the issue a bit
better than others and some people actually do the work because they can and
are being respected for - just by their experience...
Either way there is a clear functional difference. The old array style
syntax
and here goes the problem, some people here understand the issue a bit
better than others and some people actually do the work because they can
and are being respected for - just by their experience...
I understand the need to have the final decision made by the core developers.
Designing by
Hi,
I did a short count of the votes about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
yesno
--
With php-src karma 510
Others16 9
-1
(OK so I'm late...)
- Original Message -
From: Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PHP Internals List internals@lists.php.net
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax
Hi,
I did a short count of the votes about the Array Syntax shortcut
On Jan 11, 2008 7:24 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
a -1 while as such this syntax is appropriate I think has to be
counted as +1.
There is more than that. It is too early to close the poll. I is not
It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
No, it is not. This has nothing to do with fairness, as we are not
enacting laws,
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 11:07 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
No, it is not. This
It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
No, it is not. This has nothing to do with fairness, as we are not
enacting laws,
On Jan 11, 2008 6:37 PM, Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008 4:47 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I did a short count of the votes about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
Yes, you forgot me.
Johannes Schlüter wrote:
But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
a -1 while as such this syntax is appropriate I think has to be
counted as +1.
I don't understand how you interpreted my view as a -1. I'm somewhat
ambivalent about it, but I don't think it would
Hi Pierre,
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 18:37 +0100, Pierre wrote:
Yes, you forgot me. And restricting the right to vote to php-src only
is respectless for all the documentation people.
Well, any restriction there is hard. I know hat the php-src karma is not
the best criteria. We have people with
On Jan 11, 2008 4:47 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I did a short count of the votes about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
Yes, you forgot me. And restricting the right to vote to php-src only
is
On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it
is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of whoever
cares to vote on technical questions.
Which is a valid point in most cases, but this is not technical,
I did a short count of the votes about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
There was no vote, in fact. For example, I am for it and I'm sure my
vote wasn't counted - simply because I already voiced my support for
it last time it
On Jan 11, 2008 10:52 PM, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we were voting on implementing a highly advanced technical feature
then yes, people who know what they're talking about should be given
more weight, but in this case I don't think so.
You're not going to fix bug reports
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 19:27 +0100, Pierre wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008 7:24 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
a -1 while as such this syntax is appropriate I think has to be
counted as +1.
There is more than
On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should
have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are
all users and developers.
Not when some write anything about everything without knowing
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 14:06 -0500, Olivier Hill wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should
have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are
all users and developers.
On 12.01.2008 01:08, Pierre wrote:
If we were voting on implementing a highly advanced technical feature
then yes, people who know what they're talking about should be given
more weight, but in this case I don't think so.
You're not going to fix bug reports related to the parser, or are
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the thing he's
proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar' and only a few people maintained that part. it
On 12.01.2008 02:20, Jeff Griffiths wrote:
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the thing he's
proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar'
Jeff Griffiths wrote:
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the
thing he's proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's
implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar' and only a few people
Gregory Beaver wrote:
Jeff Griffiths wrote:
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the
thing he's proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's
implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar' and
On Jan 12, 2008 1:54 AM, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if (1) {
$a = [
[
['a' = 1, 3],
($b = 3),
]
];
} else {
$a = [
[
['b' = 1, 3]
]
];
}
I agree, that's a bit nasty. =)
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