Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-17 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 06:47, Aleksander Machniak wrote: > > On 15.01.2020 21:15, Nikita Popov wrote: >> Yes, having a php.net account is sufficient. Additionally there are 28 >> users in the wiki in the "phpcvs" group, which I *think* means they can >> also vote. >> >> Based on master.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
Nikita Popov in php.internals (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:51:06 +0100): > >If you don't know your php.net account password, request a new one at >https://master.php.net/forgot.php. Thanks. That one worked. Just curious: why did the wiki send me an unusable Wikidocu password? -- Jan -- PHP Internals -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Nikita Popov
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:45 PM Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > "Christoph M. Becker" in php.internals (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:16:21 > +0100): > >On 16.01.2020 at 13:18, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > > > >> And I still cannot vote. This discussion prompted me to request a > >> password. I got a DokuWiki password,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
"Christoph M. Becker" in php.internals (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:16:21 +0100): >On 16.01.2020 at 13:18, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > >> And I still cannot vote. This discussion prompted me to request a >> password. I got a DokuWiki password, but logging in on >> https://wiki.php.net/?do=login resulted in >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Bastian Schneider
Am 16.01.2020 um 13:52 schrieb Paul M. Jones: Anyone have ideas on how (or from where) the `$INFO['userinfo']['grps']` values get populated? I would guess from the database

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 16.01.2020 at 13:18, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > tyson andre in php.internals (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:02:24 +): >> Olumide Samson in php.internals (Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:06:04 +0100): >>> Wow. From a participation standpoint that seems pretty pathetic. If 30 >>> is the average that means most people

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Paul M. Jones
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 06:47, Aleksander Machniak wrote: > > On 15.01.2020 21:15, Nikita Popov wrote: >> Yes, having a php.net account is sufficient. Additionally there are 28 >> users in the wiki in the "phpcvs" group, which I *think* means they can >> also vote. >> >> Based on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Aleksander Machniak
On 15.01.2020 21:15, Nikita Popov wrote: > Yes, having a php.net account is sufficient. Additionally there are 28 > users in the wiki in the "phpcvs" group, which I *think* means they can > also vote. > > Based on master.php.net data, the number of people who are eligible for > voting is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-16 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
tyson andre in php.internals (Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:02:24 +): > Olumide Samson in php.internals (Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:06:04 +0100): >> Wow. From a participation standpoint that seems pretty pathetic. If 30 >> is the average that means most people never vote.  >> >> I would have assumed that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Daniel Rodrigues Lima
ssunto: Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters? > Wow. From a participation standpoint that seems pretty pathetic. If 30 is the > average that means most people never vote. > > I would have assumed that having a vote would mean that people would be > expected to vote pe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread tyson andre
> Wow. From a participation standpoint that seems pretty pathetic. If 30 is the > average that means most people never vote.  > > I would have assumed that having a vote would mean that people would be > expected to vote periodically or if not then loose the privilege.  How many of the 1900 are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Paul M. Jones
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 16:58, Levi Morrison via internals > wrote: > > We are predominantly volunteers, and should keep that in mind for > these kinds of things. Hear, hear. -- Paul M. Jones pmjo...@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Levi Morrison via internals
We are predominantly volunteers, and should keep that in mind for these kinds of things. In my opinion, a timeline of 6 months is definitely too short. Maybe something like 3 years would be more appropriate. And if we do remove stale voting privileges it should be easy to get them back again, and

RE: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Olumide Samson
From: Mike Schinkel Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:23 PM To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP Internals List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters? > On Jan 15, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > > Based on master.php.net data, the number of people who are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:02, Paul M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey wrote: > >> > >> Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is here: > >> https://people.php.net/ > > > > I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Mike Schinkel
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > > Based on master.php.net data, the number of people who are eligible for > voting is approximately 1900. The usual turnout for RFC votes is more like > 30. If it's something very controversial, maybe 100. Wow. From a participation

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Paul M. Jones
Hi -- > On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:15, Nikita Popov wrote: > > Yes, having a php.net account is sufficient. Additionally there are 28 > users in the wiki in the "phpcvs" group, which I *think* means they can > also vote. Ah, very good -- thanks for that! -- Paul M. Jones pmjo...@pmjones.io

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Paul M. Jones
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:12, Ben Ramsey wrote: > >> Ben (and others) -- your thoughts? Is it really as straightforward as >> "having a php.net account alone is enough to be eligible to vote” ? > > I wasn’t answering based on the rules. My answer is based on practice. Sure, though that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Nikita Popov
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:03 PM Paul M. Jones wrote: > > > > On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > > > Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is > here: https://people.php.net/ > > I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, the >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:02, Paul M. Jones wrote: > > > >> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey wrote: >> >> Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is here: >> https://people.php.net/ > > I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Paul M. Jones
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is here: > https://people.php.net/ I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, the rules are: > • People with php.net VCS accounts that have

Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:19, Paul M. Jones wrote: > > Hi all, > > Apropos the Nicolas Grekas discussion on this list ... > > > > ... and on Reddit ... > > > >

[PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?

2020-01-15 Thread Paul M. Jones
Hi all, Apropos the Nicolas Grekas discussion on this list ... ... and on Reddit ... ... I began to wonder who all is eligible to vote. Looking at