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From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:06 AM
To: Tjerk Meesters; PHP internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, Tjerk Meesters tjerk.me esters a gmail.com
wrote:
Obviously spoke
-Original Message-
From: Kris Craig [mailto:kris.cr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 3:22 AM
To: Xen
Cc: Levi Morrison; internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen x...@dds.nl wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen x...@dds.nl wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
first; not completely sure though.
Okay, I
Currently, this is what's available for checking a variable's status
without throwing any errors:
Variable exists and !== NULL: isset( $var )
Variable === NULL or doesn't exist: !isset( $var )
Variable == NULL or doesn't exist: empty( $var )
Variable exists and != NULL: !empty( $var )
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Tjerk Meesters tjerk.meest...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen x...@dds.nl wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
For completeness, it is available in
On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, Tjerk Meesters tjerk.me esters a gmail.com
wrote:
Obviously spoke to soon ... what I've written there is basically an ugly
`!isset($var)`.
Totally fail to see what is ugly with is set or the difference with
exists(). The latter, in the context of php (even more with
On July 5, 2014 at 9:05 AM Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, Tjerk Meesters tjerk.me esters a gmail.com
wrote:
Obviously spoke to soon ... what I've written there is basically an ugly
`!isset($var)`.
Totally fail to see what is ugly with is set
HI,
Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
Cheers,
Andrey.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
$var !== null
Hi!
Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
There's nothing to remove. Every type has is_* function, including null
type. If is_null() is offensive
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com
wrote:
Hi!
Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
There's nothing to
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
What would be wrong with changing it from a function to a language
construct like isset() and empty()? If is_null() were the equivalent of
!isset( $var ) || $var === NULL, it would make a hell of a lot more sense
than
On 4 July 2014 08:43, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com
wrote:
Hi!
Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Mats Lindh mats.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
What would be wrong with changing it from a function to a language
construct like isset() and empty()? If is_null() were the equivalent of
!isset(
Hey,
-Original Message-
From: Xen [mailto:x...@dds.nl]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:40 AM
To: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
Heya,
I was just wondering about something.
It seems way more natural and flowing to have and use a not_null
Op Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:34:17 +0200 schreef Robert Stoll p...@tutteli.ch:
[Robert Stoll]
I really like how ruby tackles this problem with the syntactic sugar
unless which basically is a substitute for if( !() ).
Maybe we could consider to introduce it in PHP next? It is very natural
to read
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Xen x...@dds.nl wrote:
Op Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:34:17 +0200 schreef Robert Stoll p...@tutteli.ch:
[Robert Stoll]
I really like how ruby tackles this problem with the syntactic sugar
unless which basically is a substitute for if( !() ).
Maybe we could consider
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
first; not completely sure though.
Okay, I never used Perl.
I don't think changing isset would be beneficial, sadly. I wish it
only checked that a variable exists and didn't do the
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen x...@dds.nl wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
first; not completely sure though.
Okay, I never used Perl.
I don't think changing isset would be beneficial, sadly. I
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