RE: [PHP-DEV] 5.0.5 RC2

2005-08-26 Thread Sonke Ruempler
Hi Zeev, Zeev Suraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:37 PM: Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in /xxx/www/wiki/includes/SpecialSpecialpages.php on line 68: aeaeciaobsoee It appears to be due to a genuine fix for bug #31525.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Calling method on non-object recoverable? (was: type hinting throwing a fatal error)

2005-08-26 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Michael Sims wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: I implemented that (except I dropped the _ERROR part for E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR as I found it too long). The patch is here: http://files.derickrethans.nl/patches/e_fatal-20050825.diff.txt Any comments? Since this new

RE: [PHP-DEV] 5.0.5 RC2

2005-08-26 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Sonke Ruempler wrote: Hi Zeev, Zeev Suraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:37 PM: Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in /xxx/www/wiki/includes/SpecialSpecialpages.php on line 68: aeaeciaobsoee It

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode-compatible extensions (was Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting throwing a fatal error)

2005-08-26 Thread John Coggeshall
Fair enough Wez :) On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 20:34 -0400, Wez Furlong wrote: In some environments you *need* to run a zts enabled PHP. People that run in those environments can heed the warnings about potential stability issues, evaluate them, and decide whether it makes sense for their

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode-compatible extensions (was Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting throwing a fatal error)

2005-08-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 03:34 26/08/2005, Wez Furlong wrote: In some environments you *need* to run a zts enabled PHP. People that run in those environments can heed the warnings about potential stability issues, evaluate them, and decide whether it makes sense for their application. I don't see any compelling need

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.0.5 RC2

2005-08-26 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:12:51 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Sonke Ruempler wrote: Hi Zeev, Zeev Suraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:37 PM: Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Property Overloading RFC

2005-08-26 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 06:00 AM 8/25/2005, Edin Kadribasic wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: And how can you possibly argue that this more complex than all the other OO crap that people are suggesting here I belive that we should do our best to filter out this storm

[PHP-DEV] FORM accept-charset was: PHP Unicode support design document

2005-08-26 Thread Tex Texin
comments at the end of this mail tex -Original Message- From: Makoto Tozawa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:47 PM To: Tex Texin Cc: 'Andrei Zmievski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'PHP Developers Mailing List' Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Unicode support

RE: [PHP-DEV] character/byte semantics was Re: PHP Unicode support design document-keeping existing functionality

2005-08-26 Thread Tex Texin
Makoto, ok, thanks. Now I see. You are saying that the multi-byte extension took the opposite approach and made existing str*() byte oriented and the mb_str*() character oriented. So we have: s2m) Migration from singlebyte to multibyte: change code that needs character units to use mb*()

Re: [PHP-DEV] FORM accept-charset was: PHP Unicode support design document

2005-08-26 Thread James Aylett
Tex Texin wrote: I guess the way to think about it, is the FORM's accept-charset tells the user agent the encodings the server accepts. In the POST to the server, the user agent is telling the server the encodings it accepts, and it is not resending the forms' accept-charset attribute. People

RE: [PHP-DEV] Calling method on non-object recoverable? (was: typehinting throwing a fatal error)

2005-08-26 Thread Michael Sims
Derick Rethans wrote: Since this new error level is being created, I have a suggestion for another type of error I would very much like to see changed from fatal to recoverable. The error I'm referring to is attempting to call a method on a non-object. This used to be a E_WARNING a long

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: 'Simple' phpers idea about interfaces/code reuse [was] Re: [PHP-DEV]PHP 6.0 Wishlist

2005-08-26 Thread Jochem Maas
Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello Christian, Thursday, August 25, 2005, 12:17:25 PM, you wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I would see this as a optional addition to the syntax of interfaces... i.e. everything works as before but you can add default function bodies which would behave as if it was

Re: [PHP-DEV] Property Overloading RFC

2005-08-26 Thread Andi Gutmans
I don't think __call/__get/__set should be resolving visibility. Maybe that's the difference. It's main purpose is to allow exposing a dynamic public interface. I understand exactly where he was going with this, and I just don't think PHP is the right place to do it. Andi At 02:55 AM

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-26 Thread Lukas Smith
Zeev Suraski wrote: Umm, that's not exactly an option, not before 5.1 proves itself stable (as far as architecture goes - the changes between 5.0 and 5.1 are as substantial as the changes between 4.x and 5.0 were). PHP 5.0 is deployed on roughly 5% of the userbase, including most of the new

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting throwing a fatal error

2005-08-26 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: I think there is a good reason for this patch making its way into PHP 5.1 and 5.0, any chance relevant RMs could be convinced to allow it? :-) Patch for 5.1 is here: http://files.derickrethans.nl/patches/e_recoverable_error-php-5.1-20050826.diff.txt

Re: [PHP-DEV] Property Overloading RFC

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Moore
On Aug 26, 2005, at 5:55 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: I'm just arguing that the current way that setters and getters are implemented is broken. Instead of keeping a broken behavior I would like to see it fixed. Derick, It is not broken its incomplete. PHP doesn't really have an

Re: [PHP-DEV] character/byte semantics was Re: PHP Unicode support design document-keeping existing functionality

2005-08-26 Thread Makoto Tozawa
Yes. Makoto Tex Texin wrote: Makoto, ok, thanks. Now I see. You are saying that the multi-byte extension took the opposite approach and made existing str*() byte oriented and the mb_str*() character oriented. So we have: s2m) Migration from singlebyte to multibyte: change code that needs

Re: [PHP-DEV] Property Overloading RFC

2005-08-26 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, Friday, August 26, 2005, 3:39:08 AM, you wrote: At 06:00 AM 8/25/2005, Edin Kadribasic wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: And how can you possibly argue that this more complex than all the other OO crap that people are suggesting here I belive that we should do our best to filter

Re: [PHP-DEV] Calling method on non-object recoverable? (was: typehinting throwing a fatal error)

2005-08-26 Thread John LeSueur
Michael Sims wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: Since this new error level is being created, I have a suggestion for another type of error I would very much like to see changed from fatal to recoverable. The error I'm referring to is attempting to call a method on a non-object. This used to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Property Overloading RFC

2005-08-26 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, Saturday, August 27, 2005, 12:52:38 AM, you wrote: At 11:32 AM 8/26/2005, Marcus Boerger wrote: I don't see why the __get/__set/__isset/__unset methods themselves can't check if the property exists and throw an exception if it doesn't. I always do that in all my examples...

[PHP-DEV] 5.0.5RC2

2005-08-26 Thread Zeev Suraski
http://downloads.php.net/zeev/php-5.0.5RC2.tar.gz http://downloads.php.net/zeev/php-5.0.5RC2.tar.bz2 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: 5.0.5RC2

2005-08-26 Thread Greg Beaver
Zeev Suraski wrote: http://downloads.php.net/zeev/php-5.0.5RC2.tar.gz http://downloads.php.net/zeev/php-5.0.5RC2.tar.bz2 PEAR is successfully updated to 1.3.6 with XML_RPC 1.4.0 Greg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP-DEV] 5.0.5RC1 rolled

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Robinson
On my woody box, configure finished fine but with... Generating files updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating php5.spec creating main/build-defs.h creating scripts/phpize creating scripts/man1/phpize.1 sed: can't read ./scripts/man1/phpize.1.in: No such file or directory