Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Kris Craig
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/11/14 09:14, Pierre Joye wrote: > > That's why I strongly suggest to make a more realistic time plan and > > stick to it. Specific dates can or should be define later but the > > period (mid october f.e.) should be defined now. One week

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/11/14 09:14, Pierre Joye wrote: > That's why I strongly suggest to make a more realistic time plan and > stick to it. Specific dates can or should be define later but the > period (mid october f.e.) should be defined now. One week more when it > is about fixing one last critical bug for an ex

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-22 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Ferenc, all, > > > > The RFC has provisions for making the 3rd and 4th milestones move as needed: > > > > “It's worth noting that the 3rd and 4th milestones will be quality > dependent. If we have evidence that suggests that PHP 7 isn't suffic

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
Ferenc, all, The RFC has provisions for making the 3rd and 4th milestones move as needed: “It's worth noting that the 3rd and 4th milestones will be quality dependent. If we have evidence that suggests that PHP 7 isn't sufficiently mature to go into the RC stage in June, or GA in October - we

RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: morrison.l...@gmail.com [mailto:morrison.l...@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Levi Morrison > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:48 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline > > Th

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Kris Craig
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Kris, > > This existed in the RFC since the get go and I don't believe anybody > raised any concerns about it. There was plenty of time for discussion. > Either way approval of this RFC won't have any effect on the approval or > rejection of

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>> After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move >>> this to a vote, it’s finally happening:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Adam Harvey
On 21 November 2014 07:36, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > In this case the 3 month period will be too short imo. > We release RCs/betas every two weeks, so 3 months would be about 6 release. > 5.6.0 had 3 alpha, 4 beta and 4 rc before release. > 5.5.0 had 6 alpha, 4 beta and 3 rc before release. > 5.4.0 h

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Levi Morrison
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move > this to a vote, it’s finally happening: Given how long it has been since there was any activity on this topic, I wish that you had issued a pre-vote email to the li

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally >> move >> this to a vote, it’s finally happening: >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
> On 21 בנוב׳ 2014, at 13:06, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move >> this to a vote, it’s finally happening: >> >> >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
Kris, This existed in the RFC since the get go and I don't believe anybody raised any concerns about it. There was plenty of time for discussion. Either way approval of this RFC won't have any effect on the approval or rejection of other RFCs. Kris, All - I'm now on a 7th day straight of a p

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move > this to a vote, it’s finally happening: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote > > > > Cast your vote! > > > > Zeev > Hi, could you update the timelin

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Kris Craig
Specifically, this is the sentence that just seems completely out of place: "Arguably, while we should definitely take the opportunity to implement compatibility-breaking changes in 7.0, we also shouldn't turn it into a compatibility-breaking festival, as the more we break, the more likely it is u

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Kris Craig
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 10:07 +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally > move > > this to a vote, it’s finally happening: > > > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Joe Watkins
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 10:07 +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: > After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move > this to a vote, it’s finally happening: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote > > > > Cast your vote! > > > > Zeev Morning Zeev, Pro

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] PHP 7.0 timeline

2014-11-21 Thread Zeev Suraski
After some Twitter hints that I should get my act together and finally move this to a vote, it’s finally happening: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline#vote Cast your vote! Zeev