Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-07-16 Thread David Zuelke
Since I'm working on something related... what's the verdict here? :) On 20.04.2015, at 20:00, Jakub Zelenka bu...@php.net wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:27 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-20 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:27 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] The problem we have now is core extensions with senseless versions without any

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Joye
On Apr 16, 2015 6:23 AM, christopher jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 4/14/15 9:58 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:51 AM, christopher jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 4/14/15 7:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we

RE: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-16 Thread François Laupretre
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] The problem we have now is core extensions with senseless versions without any external versions. Or mixed codebase, like core is a mix of external and core specific codes which is not in any external releases. That is what we should solve. Do

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:27 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] The problem we have now is core extensions with senseless versions without any external versions. Or mixed codebase, like core is a mix of external and core specific

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-16 Thread Remi Collet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 15/04/2015 11:47, Pierre Joye a écrit : On Apr 15, 2015 4:12 PM, Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org wrote: , I still +1 on this I'm mostly +1 on this proposal. Of course extension (like oci8) should be able to keep its version (when it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:01 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] What do you think to simply use the PHP version number instead of some outdated (most of the time) version for all bundled extensions? As the idea is that

RE: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Apr 15, 2015 6:01 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] What do you think to simply use the PHP version number instead of some outdated (most of the time) version for all bundled extensions? As the idea is that extensions

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Pierre Joye
Again, take #3, ext released in and outiside the core will use the external version number everywhere. Like oci, zip and other well managed versions. The stupid think like 0.1 since 8 years will use the php version. That is all. Installer can easily knows which uses what. Or am I missing

RE: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread François Laupretre
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] Again, take #3, ext released in and outiside the core will use the external version number everywhere. Like oci, zip and other well managed versions. The stupid think like 0.1 since 8 years will use the php version. That is all. Or am I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Ryan Pallas
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:07 AM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] Again, take #3, ext released in and outiside the core will use the external version number everywhere. Like oci, zip and other well managed versions. The stupid

RE: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Apr 15, 2015 10:07 PM, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] Again, take #3, ext released in and outiside the core will use the external version number everywhere. Like oci, zip and other well managed versions. The stupid think like

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread christopher jones
On 4/14/15 9:58 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:51 AM, christopher jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 4/14/15 7:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Remi Collet
Le 15/04/2015 07:08, Xinchen Hui a écrit : Hey: Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Apr 15, 2015 4:12 PM, Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org wrote: , I still +1 on this I'm mostly +1 on this proposal. Of course extension (like oci8) should be able to keep its version (when it is correctly managed). Yes opcache have an issue... so we probably have to keep 7.0.x until

RE: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-15 Thread François Laupretre
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] What do you think to simply use the PHP version number instead of some outdated (most of the time) version for all bundled extensions? As the idea is that extensions available externally are supposed to change more often than the bundled

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-14 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration (projects dependencies management, composer or other), we need to find a way

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-14 Thread christopher jones
On 4/14/15 7:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration (projects dependencies management, composer or other), we need to find a way to get rid of this problem. What do

[PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-14 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration (projects dependencies management, composer or other), we need to find a way to get rid of this problem. What do you think to simply use the PHP version

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-14 Thread Xinchen Hui
Hey: Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration (projects dependencies management, composer or

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fixing bundled extension version mess

2015-04-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:51 AM, christopher jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 4/14/15 7:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: hi, We tried that many times but we fail to handle the version of bundled extensions. Along with some installer work and other integration (projects