[PHP-DEV] Property get/set syntax

2011-08-10 Thread Sebastian Krebs

Hi,

From time to time I'm looking over the existing RFCs and I'm wondering 
what happens to them. For example Property get/set syntax [1]. As far 
as I can see its already accepted for PHP6 [2], but now it seems to be 
orphaned. In my opinion it is a very nice enhancement, that helps to get 
rid of the Getter/Setter-mess. Are there any plans?


Bye,
Sebastian



[1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax
[2] https://wiki.php.net/todo/php60

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Property get/set syntax

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Dragoonis
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Sebastian Krebs 
sebastian.krebs.ber...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 From time to time I'm looking over the existing RFCs and I'm wondering what
 happens to them. For example Property get/set syntax [1]. As far as I can
 see its already accepted for PHP6 [2], but now it seems to be orphaned. In
 my opinion it is a very nice enhancement, that helps to get rid of the
 Getter/Setter-mess. Are there any plans?

 @internals -  Is this something that could be proposed for 5.4.0? or is it
too late.


 Bye,
 Sebastian



 [1] 
 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/**propertygetsetsyntaxhttps://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax
 [2] https://wiki.php.net/todo/**php60 https://wiki.php.net/todo/php60

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Property get/set syntax

2011-08-10 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Sebastian

2011/8/10 Sebastian Krebs sebastian.krebs.ber...@googlemail.com:
 Hi,

 From time to time I'm looking over the existing RFCs and I'm wondering what
 happens to them. For example Property get/set syntax [1]. As far as I can
 see its already accepted for PHP6 [2], but now it seems to be orphaned. In
 my opinion it is a very nice enhancement, that helps to get rid of the
 Getter/Setter-mess. Are there any plans?

This RFC by Dennis was never 100% finalized, however from what I
remember it was suggested too late in 5.3's development process to be
implemented, and so do I think we are in 5.4 already as the RFC would
need some extra care before sent to the list, perhaps even a patch for
parts of it.

The RFC itself evolved quite a bit doing its drafts on the wiki, I
remember having long emails with Dennis about the syntax, as it
evolved to allow many more things and additions to the object model,
like final properties, interfaces with properties, getters, setters,
 But in the end I think it would rime greatly with traits and
other goodies in 5.4 if someone took the time and care for this RFC,
just worried its way too late already.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Property get/set syntax

2011-08-10 Thread André Rømcke
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.netwrote:

 Hi Sebastian

 2011/8/10 Sebastian Krebs sebastian.krebs.ber...@googlemail.com:
  Hi,
 
  From time to time I'm looking over the existing RFCs and I'm wondering
 what
  happens to them. For example Property get/set syntax [1]. As far as I
 can
  see its already accepted for PHP6 [2], but now it seems to be orphaned.
 In
  my opinion it is a very nice enhancement, that helps to get rid of the
  Getter/Setter-mess. Are there any plans?

 This RFC by Dennis was never 100% finalized, however from what I
 remember it was suggested too late in 5.3's development process to be
 implemented, and so do I think we are in 5.4 already as the RFC would
 need some extra care before sent to the list, perhaps even a patch for
 parts of it.


Type hinting is for instance not covered (should imho at least be on pair
with function signatures).



 The RFC itself evolved quite a bit doing its drafts on the wiki, I
 remember having long emails with Dennis about the syntax, as it
 evolved to allow many more things and additions to the object model,
 like final properties, interfaces with properties, getters, setters,
  But in the end I think it would rime greatly with traits and
 other goodies in 5.4 if someone took the time and care for this RFC,
 just worried its way too late already.



On 6.0 todo list:
There are lots of things that would be nice additions to php on the 6.0 todo
list*.
If all these have been voted for in the past, I'll suggest that they could
be worked on in upcoming 5.x versions as well leading up to an eventual 6.0
version.

*eg:

   - Property overloading RFC aka abstract/virtual properties and get/set
   handlers (derick) (related?)
   - add support for type-hinted return values. *caugh*
   - add ability to allocate persistent zvals in PHP.
   - add support for files 2GB once native 64bit integers are implemented
   (pierre,wez)
   - APC
  - include APC in the core distributions (turned off by default) and
  switch to mmap as default shared memory storage.
  - ability to move autoloaded main classes in apc's class lookup
  preventing the overhead of doing the inheritance process all the time.
  (marcus)





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