Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-28 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 28.02.2008, at 15:19, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello David, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 9:27:16 PM, you wrote: Greetings, PDO community! My name is David Sceppa and I am a program manager working at Microsoft on improving SQL Server for PHP data hosting. Thanks fro writing and welcom

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-28 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello David, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 9:27:16 PM, you wrote: > Greetings, PDO community! My name is David Sceppa and I am a program > manager working at Microsoft on improving SQL Server for PHP data hosting. > Let me first just say that Microsoft is very interested in participating > in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-27 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wednesday 27 February 2008, David Sceppa wrote: > The approach that's been described in proposals (vendor-built drivers can > be covered via CLAs while the core components remain CLA-free) is something > I believe to be in the best interests of both driver writers and the > developers who use P

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-27 Thread David Sceppa
Greetings, PDO community! My name is David Sceppa and I am a program manager working at Microsoft on improving SQL Server for PHP data hosting. Let me first just say that Microsoft is very interested in participating in the PDO 2 effort and I plan to actively engage in the discussions of the s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-13 Thread Lester Caine
Christopher Jones wrote: Lester Caine wrote: > Perhaps if PDO actually added some value there there would not be a > problem, but we still need something sensible wrapping it to make cross > database SQL work so why do I need to bother changing the internals of > what I have been working with

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-13 Thread Christopher Jones
Lester Caine wrote: > Perhaps if PDO actually added some value there there would not be a > problem, but we still need something sensible wrapping it to make cross > database SQL work so why do I need to bother changing the internals of > what I have been working with for years just to 'fix half

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Hristov
Hi, Pierre Joye wrote: > Hi, > > I think the biggest myths in this CLA discussion are: > >>> The main realization was that the vendors could not co-operate with >>> each other on code without a CLA in place, and that some of them would >>> not be able to co-operate with the community without a C

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Marcus Boerger wrote: > * Develop a PECL CLA that can optionally be used for PECL projects. > * If necessary, adapt the PHP License, so that it works nicely > together with the CLA. > * The projects that want a CLA can choose between the PHP License or > LGPL. > * Change th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Lester Caine
Steph Fox wrote: Be fair, this is an open list. Anyone can join it, and it keeps the noise levels down on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please? ;) http://news.php.net/php.pdo Move all of PDO over to there and let those of us who have not found any reason to need to switch to it get on with fully open so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Steph Fox
TED]> Cc: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 Hello Wez, keeping the discussion on this list is a major mistake. And it is actually the reason why everyone

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, I think the biggest myths in this CLA discussion are: > > The main realization was that the vendors could not co-operate with > > each other on code without a CLA in place, and that some of them would > > not be able to co-operate with the community without a CLA in place. and: > > For exam

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Wez, keeping the discussion on this list is a major mistake. And it is actually the reason why everyone outside this list is against it. And whether you read blogs or not does not interest anybody at all - unless you are going to comment on every single blog that mentions PHP and CLA. So f