Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Steph Fox wrote: Well thanks to a separate PEAR channel, we have all the infrastructure easily setup to have a different place for users to pick up the code. Or are you more concerned about the CVS, than the distribution of the packages? I don't have concerns

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi, I know I have been guilty of formulating my concerns about PDO's history in an unfortunate way that turned out to sound more like a personal attack on Wez, than a sound technical commentary (which is all that counts on an OSS mailinglist). So I cannot pretend to have a white vest in

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Steph Fox
I see no point to discuss solutions for some unknown entities willing to contribute when they do not consider to introduce themselves. When they don't explain clearly why we should do the move and what will be the actual gains for us (read: for us not for them). Until a step in this/our

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 03.02.2008, at 19:24, Steph Fox wrote: I see no point to discuss solutions for some unknown entities willing to contribute when they do not consider to introduce themselves. When they don't explain clearly why we should do the move and what will be the actual gains for us (read: for us

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Steph Fox
Moin Lukas, Now, PECL has a couple of CLA'd modules already. I don't like them being there, and you have stated your own opinion loud and clear. I think we should be looking for some way to separate out CLA'd PECL modules to elsewhere but leave the PECL structure in place for those

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 03.02.2008, at 20:04, Steph Fox wrote: Moin Lukas, Now, PECL has a couple of CLA'd modules already. I don't like them being there, and you have stated your own opinion loud and clear. I think we should be looking for some way to separate out CLA'd PECL modules to elsewhere but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Steph Fox
Ah sorry - I'm not good with multi-tasking, mixed up two ongoing conversations here. Well thanks to a separate PEAR channel, we have all the infrastructure easily setup to have a different place for users to pick up the code. Or are you more concerned about the CVS, than the distribution of

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Lukas, Well Greg has long been talking about adding the ability to bundle binaries in PECL packages. Not sure if this is included in the next generation installer Pyrus. Again, I personally do not think that the distribution we ship would be so radically different, so this would not be