Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3 (sorry missed a couple votes, but they did not affect the results)

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Wallner
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 7) should Output buffering rewrite MFH? this one comes with some baggage, we need enough people to actually have a look at how things are in HEAD and make it clear that they will be available for bug fixing and BC issues resolving. the risk here is obviously that any

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-16 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hello All, First up thanks for this every efficient thread! Really makes the life for Johannes and myself a lot easier when we can so easily get an overview of the opinions on internals. After having discussed the results, we want to publish our conclusions .. 1) ext/mhash in 5.3.

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-15 Thread Moriyoshi Koizumi
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash +1 2) deprecate ereg*. +1 3) resource constants (choose one) a) Should we deprecate constant resources (mostly used to emulate STDIN and

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi, Thank you all for participating and raising any issues/concerns in a concise manner. I will tally up the votes sometime over the weekend and discuss the results with Johannes. We will then post what decisions we will take based on the votes (though in some cases we might need to hold

RE: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-14 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 09:40 -0500, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote: 6) enable mysqlnd by default in 5.3? (answer both) -1 both: would favor mysql by including client in default installation For clarification: mysqlnd is a PHP-specific replacement for the MySQL Client Library (libmysql) so adding

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-14 Thread George Antoniadis
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-14 Thread Felipe Pena
1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +0 II) remove ext/mhash +1 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3.

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Lester Caine
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default 0 II) remove ext/mhash 0 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Konstantin Leboev
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Jani Taskinen
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash +1 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an

RE: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Wed Nov 12 02:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash 0 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3. Since ext/ +1 3) resource constants (choose one) c

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Alexey Zakhlestin
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Guilherme Blanco
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alexey Zakhlestin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-13 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Lukas, Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:14:31 PM, you wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 12.11.2008, at 20:14, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash +1 2)

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 20:14, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Matt Wilson
On Nov 12, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the list

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default II) remove ext/mhash yes, yes 2) deprecate

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 12.11.2008, 20:14 +0100 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: [...] 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default II)

[PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the list needless repetition. Instead if you think that a topic

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default II) remove ext/mhash I) +1 II) Can't we make mhash stub extension with dependency on

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On 12-Nov-08, at 2:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the list

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Scott MacVicar
On 12 Nov 2008, at 14:14, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the list needless

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Lukas, 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash -1, BC concerns. Can't we just deprecate it in 5.3 and

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash +0 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3.

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Rob Richards
1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default II) remove ext/mhash +1 both 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3.

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Lukas! Thanks for this nice little list, 1st class troll killer :) On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread David Coallier
1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove ext/mhash +1 2) deprecate ereg*. ext/ereg is an extension as of PHP 5.3.

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Arnaud Le Blanc
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 20:14:31 Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hi, 1) ext/mhash in 5.3. ext/hash has all the functions, so the entire BC break will be that if (extension_loaded('mhash')) will need fixing if mhash is removed (answer both) I) enable ext/hash by default +1 II) remove

Re: [PHP-DEV] quick polls for 5.3

2008-11-12 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 1:14:31 pm Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Hi, here are a few questions that need to be answered ASAP. If at all possible keep your votes as short as possible. I think all of the above topics have been discussed quite a lot on the list. So I hope voters can spare the