Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Ronald Chmara wrote: On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Voting to achieve what? Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not discutable, ideally). I do not consider fairness, whatever that could mean, having

Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread BuildSmart
On Jan 15, 2008, at 02:12:50, Ronald Chmara wrote: On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Voting to achieve what? Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not discutable, ideally). I do not consider fairness, whatever that could mean, having anything

Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread Pierre
Hi, On Jan 15, 2008 8:12 AM, Ronald Chmara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Voting to achieve what? Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not discutable, ideally). I do not consider fairness, whatever that could

Re: [PHP-DEV] mailinglist rules

2008-01-15 Thread chris#
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:45:25 +0100, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Antony Dovgal wrote: On 10.01.2008 18:33, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need

Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:34 , Pierre wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 2:58 AM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voting to achieve what? Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not discutable, ideally). I do not consider fairness, whatever that could mean, having

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-01-15 Thread Keryx Web
Rasmus Lerdorf skrev: PHP is first and foremost a Web scripting language. Everything we do and every decision is based on that. There is one aspect that has popped up in the discussion about array syntax but not here where it is almost as applicable. ECMAScript 4 will have introduce

Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Lynch
I don't believe the PHP Dev Team has ever claimed that votes counted for anything at all. IIRC, the last known Dev Team structure was defined as benevolent junta I do not think anybody who can count past 10 with their shoes on can mistake benevolent junta for a vote-based democracy. :-) Larry

Re: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, January 11, 2008 4:13 pm, Sam Barrow wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:52 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote: input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Array syntax []

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Lynch
-1 Another way of doing something already simple does not improve the language, imho, only degrades maintenance and documentation. If you have a time machine and can go back and make Rasmus do it this way from the beginning, fine, but not now. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I

Re: [PHP-DEV] voting

2008-01-15 Thread chris#
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:55:46 -0600 (CST), Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe the PHP Dev Team ... 8SNIP8--- ...junta for a vote-based democracy. :-) Larry may have said it best call it a poll and be done with it Can we take a vote on that? :)) --

Re: [PHP-DEV] U

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sat, January 5, 2008 2:48 pm, Stefan Esser wrote: Hello, typing into PHP, even if it is optional. Passing $_REQUEST['age'] to a that $_REQUEST['age'] has been checked for numeric before the functio would you please not use $_REQUEST in any of your examples? $_REQUEST is one of the

Re: [PHP-DEV] U

2008-01-15 Thread Stefan Priebsch
Richard Lynch schrieb: If a web service really doesn't care whether it is responding to GET or POST or even forged COOKIES to product its output, why would it not just use REQUEST? It's not as if it's any harder to forge GET vs. POST vs. COOKIE data, really. You can easily have sombeody

Re: [PHP-DEV] U

2008-01-15 Thread Stefan Esser
Stefan Priebsch schrieb: Richard Lynch schrieb: If a web service really doesn't care whether it is responding to GET or POST or even forged COOKIES to product its output, why would it not just use REQUEST? It's not as if it's any harder to forge GET vs. POST vs. COOKIE data, really. I am