Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO 2: Request for Comments

2008-01-24 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Wez, Andi and all other persons behind this bad joke, We clearly show that we are massively against a CLA in php core. Are you suggesting that you want to release pdo2 only through PECL or some non php.net repository? Besides this little distribution problem, I find rather sad that you

Re: [PHP-DEV] re-proposal of pecl/phar for inclusion in core

2008-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Steph, On Jan 28, 2008 8:38 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly and I'm rather surprised to see this post given the recent efforts to export the Zip symbols to allow any extension to share the zip features. I think until the zip features were shared the library's

Re: [PHP-DEV] re-proposal of pecl/phar for inclusion in core

2008-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 28, 2008 9:38 PM, Gregory Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Greg, On Jan 28, 2008 7:52 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current status of phar addresses most of these criticisms: Looks impressive, great work! phar implements zip

Re: [PHP-DEV] re-proposal of pecl/phar for inclusion in core

2008-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Greg, On Jan 28, 2008 7:52 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current status of phar addresses most of these criticisms: Looks impressive, great work! phar implements zip support with native PHP code, enabling some features I am a bit confused about native PHP code here -

Re: [PHP-DEV] re-proposal of pecl/phar for inclusion in core

2008-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I find your actual positions confusing and each mails bring opposing arguments about the shared work between other archives extension and phar. Can you clarify your view please? Essential: nothing Optional: bz2, spl,

Re: [PHP-DEV] re-proposal of pecl/phar for inclusion in core

2008-01-28 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 28, 2008 8:56 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is a good thing to require ext/phar even for the read operations. It certainly allows a shit load of optimization and tricks that will never be possible otherwise. But Greg or Marcus will give us a better answer :) ?

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: seariver

2008-01-29 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Jan 17, 2008 12:00 PM, Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 17, 2008 3:36 AM, Mário Soares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted in the pecl-dev malling list, the intention of publishing a new php extension. And Pierre suggested to make it available in the php.net cvs. Confirmed, he

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: seariver

2008-01-29 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 29, 2008 6:08 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, the account is approved (whoever did it, I don't know). Thanks to him and to you for the notice then, it was not before I mailed this reminder :) -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --

Re: [PHP-DEV] nowdocs again

2008-01-30 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 30, 2008 3:00 PM, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30.01.2008 16:41, Dmitry Stogov wrote: The final nowdoc patches are attached. I'm going to commit them on Thursday in case of no objections. So the current syntax is $var = 'TEXT' text 'TEXT'; am I right? I believe

Re: [PHP-DEV] json_encode() bug

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 1, 2008 8:13 PM, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/25, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now this is an easy fix but would lead to bad strings silently converted to empty strings. The question is - should we have an error there? If so, which one - E_WARNING,

Re: [PHP-DEV] json_encode() bug

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 1, 2008 9:06 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid question, who actually checks for E_* in his code at runtime after having called such functions? Not me and I would hate to. It sounds to me like a perfect exception use case. As this function can General policy in

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, Globally -1. I'm against any CLA in php.net. It was a mistake in the first place to accept restricted modules. There is many repositories out there, and the companies that need a CLA also have the resources to create their own PECL channels. But they may not have the fantastic advantages

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 1, 2008 11:10 PM, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Antony Dovgal wrote: On 01.02.2008 23:26, Marcus Boerger wrote: Sorry for not writing this earlier. So how does this idea sound? It sounds quite bad. If you want to do something good for

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_3) / zend_API.c zend_API.h php-src/ext/standard type.c

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
2008/2/1 Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Crosspost, hopefully silencing this issue for 5.* AND 6 will have an E_WARNING or even an E_ERROR on this. What are the gains? What are the real reasons behing strictness? I really get annoying by adding fatal errors all around for no technical

Re: [PHP-DEV] [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_3) / zend_API.czend_API.h php-src/ext/standard type.c

2008-02-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 2, 2008 1:52 AM, Gregory Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Cristian Rodriguez wrote: 2008/2/1, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Fix callable/static mess, the following will now all result in a E_STRICT . binding a dynamic function as a static

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Feb 2, 2008 12:15 PM, Richard Quadling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is no CLA, will that mean we will not get the PDO 2 drivers we need to be able to communicate with the databases? It would be really nice if the pro CLA camp stops to condition the existence of PDO (or its future)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, I think the biggest myths in this CLA discussion are: The main realization was that the vendors could not co-operate with each other on code without a CLA in place, and that some of them would not be able to co-operate with the community without a CLA in place. and: For example, a

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 2, 2008 3:14 PM, Wez Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre, At no point have I or anyone else said that the future of PDO depends on a CLA. --Wez. No, you did not say it explicitally. However you said that many vendors, experts or leaders will not contribute or will not support PDO

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Feb 2, 2008 8:52 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all we need is to extend the PECL database with a license type field and a CLA flag. Nothing else is required at that end. But we should still move as much from php-src/ext to pecl as we can. There is no place for CLA in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship

2008-02-02 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 2, 2008 9:14 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? It is also possible to have both. It is even a good thing for what linux distributions told me about zip. About moving all extensions to PECL, we already discussed this problem and the conclusion was to continue like now.

[PHP-DEV] Re: An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-03 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Markus, On Feb 3, 2008 11:53 AM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Markus, none of what you said is what I wrote. If you knew me than you would know that I would never go this route. In fact I have always been open for discussions. That's new. However in this particular

Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship

2008-02-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 3, 2008 10:21 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the risk to repeat myself (and some other having said the same), the biggest advantage PHP has so far is that you get everything you may need with the default install. This hasn't been true of the Windows distribution for the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship

2008-02-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 3, 2008 10:27 PM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point but I admit that I never understood why our windows releases have been so different from the source releases, from a configuration point of view. Many default extensions are (were) not enabled. But that's not a big

[PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-05 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, It seems that there is voices in favor of keeping the GPC related functions in HEAD/php6 but returning always FALSE. I thought the decision was already done but I rather prefer to ask the list a second time and be done with this topic (and be free to bogus any other bug reports about this

Re: [PHP-DEV] [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_3) / zend_API.czend_API.h php-src/ext/standard type.c

2008-02-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 5, 2008 11:14 PM, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, February 1, 2008 7:33 pm, Pierre Joye wrote: On Feb 2, 2008 1:52 AM, Gregory Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Cristian Rodriguez wrote: 2008/2/1, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Fix

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 12:02 AM, Tomi Kaistila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one seems to have answered my point that actually relying on type juggling for anything other than string concatenation is asking for a problem. Probably because there isn't a way to answer that point. Anyone who does would

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 1:01 AM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 5:46 PM, Mike Willbanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know they've been marked deprecated and all, but, really, what's the cost/penalty to having a couple functions around for legacy apps? Then we will

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-05 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Rasmus, On Feb 6, 2008 2:13 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 3:26 PM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 3:23 PM, Pierre Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It seems that there is voices in favor of keeping the GPC

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 9:31 AM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still we should add simple static typehints (ie. just the types that we use in the manual) - and they should behave in the same way as the other type hints that we laready have. Same here. -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net |

Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 11:12 AM, Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well - that can't be entirely true or there'd be next to no MySQL support out there! I knew that would come back and bite me on the ass as soon as I posted! :-) MySQL support is one of the noteable exceptions as its considered core

Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 11:32 AM, Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, The main reason (from my experiences) for the ISP is lazynes. They don't care about what the users may need or not but simply run configure, make make install, or use the xyz distribtutions default package to run

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
HI Sam, On Feb 6, 2008 2:33 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 14:20 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Sam Barrow wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 09:31 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: I still we should add simple static typehints (ie. just the

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Sam, On Feb 6, 2008 4:08 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 15:31 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: HI Sam, On Feb 6, 2008 2:33 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 14:20 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Sam Barrow

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 5:13 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Just a suggestion. Maybe make your case analyzing a set of representative php applications for calls to the various is*() methods (maybe even factoring in assert()). This could help in showing how often people are

Re: [PHP-DEV] type hinting

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 7:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with. Bottom line all stubbornness should be put aside and look to see if it would improve the language use and appeal to a large user base, No, it won't improve. for you. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net |

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 6, 2008 9:20 PM, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/6, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't care that much, but I think it would matter if the functions just are there and return false (so -1). for set_magic_quotes_runtime(), if true is passed, it should still

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Andi, On Feb 7, 2008 12:56 AM, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 Suggestion to enhance the suggestion: return false + emit E_STRICT message (but I am also fine with pure return false if people don't like this suggestion). Sounds reasonable too. It would be nice to add a deprecate

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: untie the MD4 code from MD5 replace the MD5 code

2008-02-07 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Alexander, On Feb 7, 2008 3:08 PM, Solar Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:00:55PM +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: Nice addition but can you please try to keep on thread for the discussions? Thanks :-) Are you referring to the changing Subject? Yes

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: untie the MD4 code from MD5 replace the MD5 code

2008-02-07 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi! Nice addition but can you please try to keep on thread for the discussions? Thanks :-) On Feb 7, 2008 2:53 PM, Solar Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:21:15PM +0300, Dmitry Stogov wrote: I assume now the patch is ready to commit. I'll commit it tomorrow in

[PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-08 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, Testing the PHP version can be much easier and faster if the versions details were exposed via the constants, like what we use internally. This little patch expose what we have in php_version.h #define PHP_MAJOR_VERSION 5 #define PHP_MINOR_VERSION 2 #define PHP_RELEASE_VERSION 6 #define

Re: [PHP-DEV] magic_quotes and the question of BC

2008-02-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 8, 2008 5:38 PM, Gregory Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I don't see why there is any vote whatsoever. It's plain stupid to consider removing them when a fully backwards-compatible solution exists that has no performance penalty, no security penalty, and in fact no penalty at

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 8, 2008 1:26 PM, Tomas Kuliavas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess I'm -1: Restore them, always return false, and throw E_DEPRECATED. But this was about them being in PHP 6, not PHP 5.. If magic_quotes_* is gone, so should anything else even remotely related to them be gone.

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-08 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi! On Feb 8, 2008 2:31 PM, Sam Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I say throw them out. Magic quotes are easy to simulate 100%. I could cry by reading this sentence ;) -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-09 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Marcus, On Feb 9, 2008 2:39 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, yeah nice idea. I am wondering if you might want to add the cvs tag, too? E.g.: PHP_TAG = 'PHP_5_3' Oh right, nice idea :) It would be nice to have it as well. The idea is to ease the tests writing and

Re: [PHP-DEV] w32api extension

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 11, 2008 8:36 PM, Justin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Justin, ... It has been moved out of php-src because the extension was not maintained. It is in PECL's cvs but has no release (still not maintained): http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/pecl/w32api

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 11, 2008 5:40 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre, On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 15:42 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: On Feb 11, 2008 3:20 PM, Pierre Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 9, 2008 2:39 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, yeah nice

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 11, 2008 3:20 PM, Pierre Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 9, 2008 2:39 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, yeah nice idea. I am wondering if you might want to add the cvs tag, too? E.g.: PHP_TAG = 'PHP_5_3' I'll commit the patch later today, I think

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 9, 2008 2:39 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, yeah nice idea. I am wondering if you might want to add the cvs tag, too? E.g.: PHP_TAG = 'PHP_5_3' I'll commit the patch later today, I think PHP_BRANCHE sounds better than PHP_TAG, or PHP_CVS_TAG (but if we move

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 11, 2008 4:25 PM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 11.02.2008, 12:51 +0100 schrieb Lars Strojny: [...] [1] http://lars.schokokeks.org/php/dir-constant-2.diff Updated version. Moved and renamed php_dirname() to zend_dirname() to not use PHP internals in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] w32api extension

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Justin, On Feb 11, 2008 5:43 AM, Justin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, Just wondering if there is any interest in bringing w32api up to speed. The docs say it was moved to PECL as of 5.1.0, however is this not the case. Rumor has it that it was to be replaced by ffi, however

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 11, 2008 5:55 PM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, Am Montag, den 11.02.2008, 17:42 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] Looks better :) Thank you! I did not test it but it looks good. Did you run the tests suite? + dirname = estrndup(filename, strlen(filename

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Edward, On Feb 12, 2008 4:30 AM, Edward Z. Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I was documenting the __DIR__ patch, and I ran across some curious behavior when the PHP file was in the Windows filesystem root: C:\test.php ?php echo __DIR__; ? Output: C:\ Is this intended? Yes,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 12, 2008 12:02 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye schreef: Hi Edward, On Feb 12, 2008 4:30 AM, Edward Z. Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I was documenting the __DIR__ patch, and I ran across some curious behavior when the PHP file was in the Windows

Re: [PHP-DEV] Math functions (new parameter parsing)

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi! On Feb 13, 2008 1:04 AM, Felipe Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I made a patch for 5_3 where all functions in ext/standard/math.c use the new parameter parsing. (As was done in HEAD) I think it got lost between you and the list :) If anyone think it good, let me know, and then

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_3) / zend_compile.c zend_highlight.c zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l /tests heredoc_001.phpt heredoc_002.phpt heredoc_003.phpt

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 12, 2008 7:47 PM, Hannes Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 7:35 PM, Pierre Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 7:31 PM, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I myself have forgot to use the damn dog tag many times. (Which is it again, @DOC@ or [DOC

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 12, 2008 6:56 PM, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for the reasons why they're not needed in 5.2 apply to any other PHP version. version_compare() is there for a reason, USE IT! No more constants for same thing, thankyouverymuch. Read: it is easier, faster handier to use than

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_3) / zend_compile.c zend_highlight.c zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l /tests heredoc_001.phpt heredoc_002.phpt heredoc_003.phpt

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 12, 2008 7:31 PM, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, when you give such feedback, please point finger at the persons who deserve it. Now it feels like everyone is misbehaving here. Not only mention the name in the body of the email but Cc: the mail to these people. Each and

Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants

2008-02-12 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Jochen, On Feb 12, 2008 12:22 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Bergmann schreef: Jochem Maas schrieb: Output: C:\ Is this intended? Yes, or what would you expect? possibly 'C:' ? Is C: not the volume whereas C:\ is the root directory on the volume? this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Math functions (new parameter parsing)

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 13, 2008 3:08 AM, Felipe Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Qua, 2008-02-13 às 01:31 +0100, Pierre Joye escreveu: Hi! On Feb 13, 2008 1:04 AM, Felipe Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I made a patch for 5_3 where all functions in ext/standard/math.c use the new

Re: [PHP-DEV] Math functions (new parameter parsing)

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 13, 2008 11:05 AM, Felipe Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Qua, 2008-02-13 às 09:47 +0100, Pierre Joye escreveu: I can't test the patch right now but does it change the result or only raises a notice? It changes the result when a string is given, and issue notice when the string

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] prepend_include_path()/append_include_path()

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lars, On Feb 13, 2008 4:47 PM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, the following patch[1] adds the functions append_include_path() and prepend_include_path(). These function are there to make include path adjustments easier than it is. Especially append_include_path() is

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] prepend_include_path()/append_include_path()

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 13, 2008 11:06 PM, Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 4:47 PM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, the following patch[1] adds the functions append_include_path() and prepend_include_path(). These function are there to make

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] prepend_include_path()/append_include_path()

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
On Feb 14, 2008 12:05 AM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2008, 23:12 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] That would be a reason to have these functions (yes, path_separator is required) ;-) So you agree? Thanks :) I don't, it was a joke

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-13 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Chris, On Feb 14, 2008 3:30 AM, Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Chris, On Feb 14, 2008 2:48 AM, Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-14 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Chris, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The code and strength of contributions and maintenance is the ultimate evidence of what can be trusted. Poor quality drivers, if they are distributed via a PECL-only distribution, will acquire their own

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Conditional INI support

2008-02-15 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Marcus, On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also I reduced the number of added values to 'php.zts' and 'php.debug'. Maybe we can add those two as consts (Pierre?). Done, both PHP_DEBUG (same as ZEND_DEBUG) and PHP_ZTS, in 5.3 and HEAD. -- Pierre

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-18 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi David, On Feb 19, 2008 12:08 AM, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read the proposal, read about traits, read the thesis, read the patch, then if you still don't understand, give up, and if you do understand, you can complain. If you don't understand, ask. If you still don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] nettiquette on this mailinglist

2008-02-22 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lukas! On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Let me briefly pick on poor David's (unfortunately I could have picked any number of posts on any given day just as well) recent emails [1] [2]: they are prima example of very bad quoting.

Re: [PHP-DEV] nettiquette on this mailinglist

2008-02-23 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Olivier Hill wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well well well, sorry everyone. I'm just too cool to follow the rules :) Just kidding, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous functions

2008-02-23 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have a working patch somewhere then? Did we not get one from Wez? and an alternative from I don't remember :) -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Fix segfault in filter extension when using callbacks

2008-02-24 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Arnar, Felipe! On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Felipe Pena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Dom, 2008-02-24 às 15:48 +, Arnar Mar Sig escreveu: Fixed in CVS. Thanks for your patches and quick reaction :) Can you add a test while being at it please? Cheers, -- Pierre

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: documentation collaboration toolchain

2008-02-25 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Personally I prefer going with a wiki, because I do not have much affection with CVS for these kinds of documents (actually I do think that the README's should be in

Re: [PHP-DEV] OpenID, big_int, OpenSSL

2008-02-25 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OpenID is a system gaining more and more support in the industry so PHP should have better support for it, too. some time ago Wez proposed[1] a patch for OpenSSL exporting some big-number-math and crypto

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-27 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi David, On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:52 PM, David Zülke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, what's the verdict on this one? Right now, many already have if(function_exists('get_magic_quotes_gpc') get_magic_quotes_gpc()) in their code. Now with the latest 5.3, that throws an E_STRICT!

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-27 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi David, On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:19 PM, David Zülke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, but IIRC, Andi or someone else suggested that there should be a warning in 5.3, but that was not discussed further. Because adding a waring in 5.x is a no-no. I mean, really, what's the point? I have

Re: [PHP-DEV] get_magic_quotes_gpc, get-magic-quotes-runtime in head, get a final decision

2008-02-27 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:48 PM, David Zülke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean my code should break because some ignorant noob is unaware that PHP6, which is still months or years away, will throw out magic quotes? How a E_DEPRECATED will break your code? Please, I doubt there is a need to

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.2.5 and static calls

2008-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:53:26 PM, you wrote: and yeas after several years of trying to communicate and never gotten anything back? I have told PREAR development a million times to fix code. I don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Replace the flex-based scanner with an re2c [1] based lexer

2008-03-02 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Stan, On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! be much easier, switching to re2c promises a much faster lexer. Actually, without any specific re2c optimizations we already get around a 20% scanner I think 20% faster is very cool. However,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Replace the flex-based scanner with an re2c [1] based lexer

2008-03-03 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious who you were answering to... Anyway, to be clear: 1. PHP 6 is major version with its major feature being Unicode support. 2. PHP 5.x is same-major branch, where you are not expected to have to

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Replace the flex-based scanner with an re2c [1] based lexer

2008-03-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! It is clearer but it is not a problem. New features may introduce new dependencies. Having a dependency on libicu while we introduce intl and other features related to unicode or i18n. I would agree if we

Re: [PHP-DEV] wiki.php.net

2008-03-05 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Stan, On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Ok so we have a wiki up and running at wiki.php.net. It is integrated Great! Thanks a lot! Maybe we should import traits proposal there now? And migrate todo lists too? :) Yes, that's the plan.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating php_dirname() in 5_3, removing in HEAD

2008-03-05 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to deprecate php_dirname() in 5_3 as it has been moved to the engine (zend_dirname()). Any concerns? 5_3: http://lars.schokokeks.org/php/5_3-deprecating-php_dirname.diff HEAD:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating php_dirname() in 5_3, removing in HEAD

2008-03-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, Am Donnerstag, den 06.03.2008, 01:22 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] 5_3: http://lars.schokokeks.org/php/5_3-deprecating-php_dirname.diff HEAD: http://lars.schokokeks.org/php/HEAD-removing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating php_dirname() in 5_3, removing in HEAD

2008-03-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pierre, Am Donnerstag, den 06.03.2008, 01:30 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] I'm talking about extension developers. We will all have to add yet another #ifdef for this function, in the implementation

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPUnit under the umbrella of PHP for GSoC

2008-03-06 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Sebasitian, On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Sebastian Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last year PHPUnit participated in the GSoC under the umbrella of PHP. Is this possible this year as well? I discussed this issue with Marcus and Chris DiBona at the mentor summit and the

Re: [PHP-DEV] wiki.php.net

2008-03-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Lars Strojny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 06.03.2008, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] Maybe SOC:2008, using SOC as namespace and 200X for the main pages is better. I like that. Is it possible to configure the namespace

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPUnit under the umbrella of PHP for GSoC

2008-03-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Sebastian Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye schrieb: PHPUnit already has a high visibility. Huh? This is not about improving the visibility of PHPUnit. I know but still.That's a side comment. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPUnit under the umbrella of PHP for GSoC

2008-03-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:20 PM, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the real question we have to ask is Do we consider PHPUnit standard for PHP Development Unit Testing ? If so, PHPUnit gets a grant (or a chance to get one under the PHP Project umbrella) If not, then it

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPUnit under the umbrella of PHP for GSoC

2008-03-06 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi All, 1) php internals (php-src, qa, docs etc) 2) any other php.net subproject 3) other php projects if a proposal falls in 3) it needs to be really good and all the prosals left in 1) and 2) need to be pretty unexciting in order to be accepted. And I fully agree. By the way, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] [GSOC] Ideas?

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Hannes Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all We should probably discuss some ideas for Google Summer of Code this year. I see people have already added few to the wiki page[1] which is great and all but wikis aren't for discussions.. The plan as I see

Re: [PHP-DEV] [GSOC] Ideas?

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Joye
HI Alan! On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Alan Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think the wiki page needs some forwarding / segmenting.. etc. Who can/should contribute to it, (how it may not reflect the views of the php group..) Who 'owns' it in the end, and is going to delete

Re: [PHP-DEV] Comparison: ('*' == 0) ... True or false

2008-03-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Scott McNaught [Synergy 8] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I don't know whether to post this as a bug or not. But I was tricked when programming today. It seems that the character * is non-strictly equivalent to 0. Is this the correct behavior or

Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PATCH] adding stream wrappers to include_path

2008-03-13 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Dmitry Stogov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg, In general include_path cannot contain pathes with ':' character, because it is the POSIX path separator. So I don't see a way to use stream wrappers in include_path. :( What's about quotes or escape? Quotes

Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PATCH] adding stream wrappers to include_path

2008-03-13 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Dmitry, On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Dmitry Stogov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is too difficult for extension that is not in the core distribution yet. For now I think it is simple to override zend_stream_open_function() and zend_resolve_path_function() callbacks by ext/phar and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Patch for opcode caches

2008-03-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Hannes Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dmitry Stogov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Removing early-binding at all might be a subject for PHP6, however in PHP_5_3 we even keep ze1_compatibility_mode.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Patch for opcode caches

2008-03-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pierre, it is unused code that does not work as intended and causes trouble. And at leats it makes maintanance harder. So that is a very big reason to drop it. Yes, I fully agree (you may have missed the not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) /win32/build config.w32

2008-03-17 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! First of all, re2c is easily available for windows - easier to find then flex - just visit the re2c homepage and download the pre-compiled Flex is installed by cygwin (which everybody that does anything

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_3) /win32/build config.w32

2008-03-20 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Elizabeth M Smith wrote: 1. If re2c IS found, try to rebuild the .c versions 2. If re2C is NOT found, use the .c versions in cvs - this allows not making re2c required but letting people who

Re: [PHP-DEV] CMake SoC Proposal

2008-03-20 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/19, Scott MacVicar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another alternative would be to simply bundle CMake with PHP, Nope, Cmake is available in almost all distributions and in the case some of them dont have it yet,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-21 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: You can't actually use the class name DateFormatter when you want pecl/intl to be in core. Date is the prefix for the already existing Date extension. I

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