Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:


 On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:

  My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me
 and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has
 started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time)
 and it won’t be cancelled this time.
 
  https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote

 The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to
 succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7.

 Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of
 implementation and features, rather than naming. :)


Finally, back to interesting stuff :-)

Julien.P


Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-30 Thread Philip Sturgeon
Good stuff everyone. Glad the vote went through.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:27 AM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:


 On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:

  My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me
 and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has
 started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time)
 and it won’t be cancelled this time.
 
  https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote

 The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to
 succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7.

 Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of
 implementation and features, rather than naming. :)


 Finally, back to interesting stuff :-)

 Julien.P

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-29 Thread Andrea Faulds

On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:

 My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and 
 Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started 
 (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it 
 won’t be cancelled this time.
 
 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote

The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to 
succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7.

Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of 
implementation and features, rather than naming. :)

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Jordi Boggiano
Somewhat unrelated to this vote in particular, but someone mentioned on 
IRC that it would be cool to see votes chronologically so I wrote a 
short JS snippet that does just that. In case anyone is interested for 
archeological purposes:


https://gist.github.com/Seldaek/bc0ae0e2bf1617d71ed7

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:

 Good afternoon,

 My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me
 and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has
 started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time)
 and it won’t be cancelled this time.

 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote

 Thanks!
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did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times
after the voting begun?
I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to
come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a
minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought
up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code
impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it
is an important decision for the project and for the language.
sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Sean Coates
 did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times
 after the voting begun?

It was reset.

S



Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Andrea Faulds

On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to
 come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a
 minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought
 up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code
 impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it
 is an important decision for the project and for the language.
 sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic

That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2 weeks 
for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks like not 
enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:


 On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes
 to
  come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a
  minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is
 brought
  up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code
  impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but
 it
  is an important decision for the project and for the language.
  sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic

 That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2
 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks
 like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended.


argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1
week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is
fine by the rules.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Sean Coates s...@seancoates.com wrote:

 did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times
 after the voting begun?


 It was reset.

 S


whoops, sorry.
then I'm really surprised the number of votes already in.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:

 
  On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the
 votes
  to
   come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a
   minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is
  brought
   up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code
   impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers),
 but
  it
   is an important decision for the project and for the language.
   sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic
 
  That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2
  weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks
  like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended.


 argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1
 week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is
 fine by the rules.

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 Ferenc Kovács
 @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu


Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far.  If you want to
avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version
increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote.

Editorial aside, I'm glad that the two sides were able to come together and
get this to a vote finally.

--Kris


Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/07/14 19:23, Kris Craig wrote:
 Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far.  If you want to
 avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version
 increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote.

Since PHP6 existed then sorry but using it again is just as confusing ;)

There will be ridicule either way, so that is no reason for reusing a
version number again. We just tag PHP6 exactly as it is documented -
closed in 2010 - a fact that seems to have been dropped again from the
arguments in the RFC :(

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Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)

2014-07-23 Thread Andi Gutmans

 On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
 
 
 On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the
 votes
 to
 come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a
 minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is
 brought
 up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code
 impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers),
 but
 it
 is an important decision for the project and for the language.
 sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic
 
 That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2
 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks
 like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended.
 
 
 argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1
 week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is
 fine by the rules.
 
 --
 Ferenc Kovács
 @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
 
 Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far.  If you want to
 avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version
 increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote.


Let's keep this clean and not start a 100 email thread restating what both view 
points have already said many times or do an artificial rally. 

 
 Editorial aside, I'm glad that the two sides were able to come together and
 get this to a vote finally.



 
 --Kris

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